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As a way to reduce accidents, a simi autopilot that allows
the driver control of the vehicle's speed and direction but
constrains it for safety similar to cars you drive at
amusement parks that travel along a rail that keeps the car
from going off the path.
This could be switched off when
somebody just wants to
drive around, but I think most car trips are a planned point
a to point b thing so if this worked most accidents could be
Somebody has to have already thought of this no?
Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS)...
... applies mild steering torque if it determines the vehicle is drifting toward the side of the lane. [a1, Sep 14 2021]
Safety of Tesla autopoilot and assisted driving systems
10x safer than letting people drive? [a1, Sep 15 2021]
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||// Somebody has to have already thought of this //
||Kinda? Sounds like Honda's "Lane
Keeping Assist System" (link) - similar to
your idea of making the car act like it's on rails while still
allowing the driver to actually drive the car. It's part of a
broader driver assist package. I just posted Honda's because I
had read about it recently, but other car markers offer similar
||Wherever it comes from, a former frontman for a
heavy metal band or an international multi billion
dollar car manufacturer, I do think something along
these lines is the wave of the future.
||[In a galaxy outside your door, post-Covid...] Take your 'lane-assist' -equipped family car on a road trip to the amusement park, where Bill* photographs your licence plate, and the car seamlessly shifts over to the park's lane-assist line, providing you've sufficient credit.
||You'll be traveling through the park in the comfort** of your own car, waiting in lines at the drive-through snacks kiosks, queuing for rides designed to accept any standard road-worthy wheel base. Tired? Tip the chair back and rest, while everyone else** continues to enjoy the ride(s), snacks, dioramas, montages and whatnot.
||Making cars into trains reminds me of when we used to ride horses onto the train. Saved a lot of horsepower <snurk> on long trips. (Later that same century, we hitched with a canoe to catch the Polar Bear Express to Moosonee in James Bay.)
||*the Billing Dept. camera, tastefully hidden in plain sight in the frieze between the cornice and the architrave on the park's Welcome arch.
||**Choose wisely your passengers, Cap'n.
Note: At the ZumbaFlume, you will be reminded to roll up your windows. Or not.
||[Sgt Teacup]; hitch-hiking with a canoe? That's awesome.
Also, anyone who stopped to pick you & your canoe up, is
||[neutrinos], believe it or don't, but back in the day, trains would stop wherever people who needed a lift gathered by the rails at a natural flat, slow spot on the route. There was always a baggage car, and the supply cars; failing that, you could put the canoe in the aisle between the seats. So yes, actual human train crews were awesome.
||Also awesome were Voyageur bus drivers who'd pick up outside of regular depots, as long as you were waiting along the route at a well-lit spot where drivers could see far enough ahead to come to a safe stop. You could bring your canoe or your bike on the Voyageur bus.
||I think self-driving cars would work really well if all
cars were self-driving cars, and the only things on the
road were self-driving cars
||[hippo] I think what you're describing there are
commonly referred to as "trains".
||[hippo]; yeah, autonomous vehicles work incredibly well if
there is nothing else around. There have been various AGVs
in factories & warehouses for a long time. But as soon as
you add pedestrians, animals, other vehicles (driven by
humans), bikes, weather, etc, it becomes infinitely more
||"Infinitely" more difficult? How do they compare to human
drivers, as a group? Accidents and fatalities per mile driven,
||Edit to add - found the answer to my own question (link):
||In the 1st quarter, (Tesla) registered one accident for every
4.19 million miles driven in which drivers had Autopilot
engaged. For those driving without Autopilot but with our
active safety features, we registered one accident for every
2.05 million miles driven. For those driving without Autopilot
and without our active safety features, we registered one
accident for every 978 thousand miles driven. By
comparison, NHTSAs most recent data shows that in the
United States there is an automobile crash every 484,000
||That's always been the number to look at, total accidents of
humans vs total accidents of A.I. That being said, anecdotal
stories will still need to be dealth with since they have the
edge and get the headlines. "The nun was taking 4 orphans
to meet Santa at the mall when the autopilot drove them
off a cliff." counteracts a lot of boring stories featuring
math about accidents being reduced by driver assistance
||Exactly, doc. The best anecdote I read recently
was about a
Tesla that veered off the road, into a tree, burst
Two deceased - one in the passenger seat and the
other in the
back seat. Oh, the horror!
||Kinda makes you wonder how well a NON-
holds the road when the driver nods off at the
wheel, or decides to climb into the backseat for a nap while
the car was still moving.
||OK, "infinitely" was a bit much hyperbole...
Of course, most human drivers are very good if there's
nothing else around, too.
||That's the deal a1, 38,000 non-autonomous car
crashes won't get the headlines like the guy who fell
asleep in the back seat of a Tesla and crashed. That
happens twice the news would be "The scourge of
A.I. crashes. In other news, regular car crash deaths down
to 38,000 this year." Although the news editors would
probably have the last part cut out.