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Going by their track record with casinos, they'd sell
citizenships to the highest bidders, then struggle with
drinking problems. |
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I was born here. That makes me a native, right? |
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It seems they had really poor immigration control over the
Bering Strait way back when. |
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Truth be told, we're all just native Africans. |
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Odd how this idea would never be even considered. |
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Just like nobody would ever consider my idea to let women only determine the laws on abortion. |
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Is it okay for me to say that Litterbox? Does it pass your gestapo thought crime metric test? |
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It's a good idea: ask the last inhabitants--before the current conquerors--who, if anyone, they'd like to let in next. Seems like it's never been tried, likely because the point of view of anyone not in power is rarely considered. Since the very best ideas generally come from the people trying to work out how to avoid oppressive rules and regimes, we would do well to observe and deploy solutions from these groups. |
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//let women only determine the laws on abortion// This, yes. |
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Since there are no US or Canadian laws governing men's bodily autonomy, perhaps we need to introduce one: women get to chose if men keep their penises in cases of rape and child sexual abuse. |
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Note: my letter outlining the fact that abortion is a woman's choice in consultation with her doctor and spiritual advisor(s), if any)) was quoted on the House floor, and in the Canadian Supreme Court, when women's right to bodily autonomy was made law in 1988. |
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Dude, that's historical! Good for you! |
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By the way, this idea isn't a joke. Where do many native Americans stand on the border issue? I don't know and can't find anything on it. Has there been a poll? Like X percent want to abolish the border all together, X percent want it totally closed, X percent want vetting of immigrants crossing etc. |
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I can't even find that. I'm serious, I want to know what the breakdown of views from these people are. Has anybody even done that? |
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I doubt it. They are many different peoples with differing opinions. |
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Well then, if it's the same outcome might be a nice gesture no? |
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//let women only determine the laws on abortion// |
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Sure, if you let men only determine the laws on child support. If a woman can opt out of an unwanted pregnancy, for ANY reason, then a man should be allowed to walk away from it no strings attached. |
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Good point, [21]; see link for a succinct discussion on the matter of child-rearing in general. |
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From the link: “Bringing a child into this world is like inviting someone to a party where the house is on fire, the food is poisoned, and half the guests are plotting to kill each other. And then acting surprised when they’re not having a good time.” |
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//Sure, if you let men only determine the laws on child support. If a woman can opt out of an unwanted pregnancy, for ANY reason, then a man should be allowed to walk away from it no strings attached.// |
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I wanted to put up a rebuttle to that and... |
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nothing. I've got nothing. |
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But Sarge, saying communism is the solution to low birth rates, I just grabbed the few remaining communist countries off the top of my head, China, Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam and compared them to the first capitalist countries that came to mind. The US, Japan, Mexico and the Philippines and got birth rates of: Communist= 1.58. Capitalist= 1.89. |
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I support child tax credits but I support just being alive tax credits. Let's stop making the people tax slaves. How did roads get built in America before the income tax? They did. |
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Neither I nor the article say that communism is the solution to capitalist-caused problems. Communism as currently practiced simply hides capitalism behind locked doors that the proles are never able to breach. The rugged individualism* of capitalism and the communist sharing of goods and services both remain illusory ideals as long as the almighty dollar is the bottom line. |
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The article is suggesting that COMMUNITY is the solution. This has nothing to do with communism, money or the means of production. It is about caring about humans. Several countries' laws and customs have gotten close, for a short while, but dollar valuation always creeps in. Look at how functioning out-groups (eg: First Nations** on reserves, transient workforces, the houseless) manage their communities, for clues at how to proceed. |
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*'Self-made man', pull-yourself-up by-the-bootstraps types always turn out to be bolstered by daddy or mummy's money, or at the very least supported by unpaid work usually done by a woman (unpaid or low-pay household work, child and elder care) or slave-wage work done by a person of colour (like road and railroad building, for example). People in charge are generally unable to see that they benefit from all this free work: Hey Cowboy, who made your jeans and your can of beans?! |
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**[doc] if you pose your border question to the People, you'd find a conundrum: prior to colonization, movement was mostly north-south along the rivers in Turtle Island (N.America), and there are a number of peoples who have relatives on both sides of the 'border' in US and Canada. Community is a moveable definition based on where the people are and who is in the group, not where the 'borders' are in relation to the people. For example, along the St. Lawrence River and around the Great Lakes, Kahnewake people near Cornwall, Ontario, Canada are related to people at Wahta reserve near Parry Sound, Ontario, Canada and the Mohawk community in New York, USA. As you can imagine, this causes difficulty at 'the border', particularly if you have been denied papers because you're a member of a (First) Nation within a nation (Canada) that incompletely recognizes your sovereignty. Fun fact: the British and French entered into contracts (treaties) with First Peoples that actually acknowledge First Nations' sovereignty, but then Canada created language loopholes of interpretation to cause mayhem and avoid terms of the treaty agreements. |
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Well, to be fair, I only skimmed through the link but he said people pulling themselves up by the boot straps and raising a family is a myth. That's how I raised my family: work, get paid, support the family, repeat and I started with nothing. I know many others who've done that as well. |
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I then cut to the bottom line where he said: "And for the love of all that is holy, can we please dismantle capitalism? A system that values profit over people, growth over sustainability, and competition over cooperation is fundamentally incompatible with healthy families and communities." after massive list of government programs that are needed to replace capitalism. Calling that something other than communism is probably a good idea. Rebranding what was basically the Black Plague of the 20th century that killed about a tenth of a billion people would be a good marketing move. |
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But I agree with some of the ideas listed to help families. Let them keep their money instead of siphoning it all off to the government would be a good start. Is there a Venn diagram point of agreement here? Maybe if you have kids with the nuclear family he was railing against, a working dad and a stay at home mom till the kids get to school, we don't tax the family? Could we start with that? |
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It's certainly a topic that needs discussion. I'm seeing that massive governments hurt the child raising process because I see how much it hampered my goal of having a stay at home mom during those critical first three years of the child's development. All day interaction with a loving parent rather then sitting them in the corner of a daycare center while the mom worked. The government didn't like it, they wanted the wife to work so they could get that extra tax money. I got a measly 2k tax credit per kid. That tax burden was very hard to bear. |
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Anyway, that's the view of somebody who's actually raised and supported a family vs this guy who hasn't, so I'd consider that when looking at evaluation of the subject. |
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But again, some of the stuff can be explored, but the dumping capitalism and calling for total government control of everything has been tried. We'll just say it was glitchy. |
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As far as the border thing, more of a conversation point that an actual idea. I say we get used to the fact that we're all in this America experiment together, the ones that were here first and the ones who came later. Migration is a thing, it's always been a thing and it'll always be a thing so we might as well learn to get along. |
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//he said people pulling themselves up by the boot straps and raising a family is a myth. That's how I raised my family: work, get paid, support the family, repeat and I started with nothing. I know many others who've done that as well.// |
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I had to re-think that. I didn't have any money but I hit the jackpot with the woman I married. I probably wouldn't have kids if it weren't for her and I'd probably still be out on the road somewhere drinking myself to death if I weren't there already. |
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So I did get incredibly lucky. That's not a Hallmark card platitude, I probably got a better woman than I deserved and she blessed me with the meaning of life which is family and love. Period. |
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Everything else is total bullshit. |
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