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Bad people lock - Bureaucracy is not a defence to bad people

Government services should be scalable, always available 24/7 and available as apps, by web chat, by phone and in person
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As governments learn how new systems are defrauded they need to bolt on security to existing processes and digital systems to cause them to be immune to hackers and fraud and access to public funds.

Technologists invented TLS to protect web traffic from malicious observers and OAuth 2 provides authentication to computers. Why can't we invent some thing that allows new services to be rapidly created while preventing bad people's abuse of them?

Surely society has collective wisdom of what bad people shall do when given the opportunity. We invented locks to prevent people from accessing our things or property.

Why not a society wide government protective lock?

In the UK the government was defrauded by people applying for covid loans. Welfare benefit fraud and attitudes towards the poor has caused the general public's perspective to be punitive and adding barriers to poor people in receipt of benefits to get them back to work.

I am proposing a framework partially digital that allows the onboarding of new and old governance structures to be handled by a single architecture that is secure against badness of people.

How does it work?

We describe a process or procedure using a set of primitives that are secure independently and compose them into a combination that is secure against the badness of people when combined together.

Typical services that any government service needs is -

Address verification, identity verification, case verification, data sharing between departments, public funds received.

UK government is trying to modernise all its services and use technology to solve the hassle of administration. This is the Government Digital Service (GDS)

But each system is separately built! There's a common checklist that each service must satisfy. Each service has to independently implement scaling, web security and all the protections against fraud and bad people.

Let's use our collective wisdom of how to prevent not genuine fraudulent requests from bad people from being fulfilled. There is a number of protections that must be generatable.

High end Security should be a service.

chronological, Apr 20 2022

21 Quest's Welfare reform compromise Welfare_20Reform_20Compromise_20_2321
Interesting debate of poor people [chronological, Apr 20 2022]

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       8th described people as "humans are nasty, greedy, selfish and venal, and immediate start to try and work out how to beat the system."   

       Let's identify what is exploitable and lock against them
chronological, Apr 20 2022
  

       Are you one of the bad people?
pocmloc, Apr 20 2022
  

       //We describe a process or procedure //   

       Not very well you don't. All I saw is "unify identity verification".
Voice, Apr 21 2022
  

       Fraud is a cost of doing business. You can build a system which removes all fraud, but no-one will use it. The trick (well, one trick) for the design of any system or technology is to strike the balance between usability and prevention of fraud. In the case of Covid loans, the general consensus at among the lawyers the time was (a) "wahey here comes loads of fraud and default" and (b) that fraud and default is the cost of making sure the whole, enormously fragile and interconnected UK service economy doesn't collapse. In the case of, for example, benefits fraud, the relatively low levels and values of the fraudulent claims are (to my mind) an acceptable cost of being able to ensure that people don't die of starvation of hypothermia.
calum, Apr 21 2022
  

       Calum, when I look at publicly provided services such as hospitals and libraries I compare them to private equivalents and compare the goodness of them there is always more money in the private equivalents. They are simply more good.   

       So bad people are why we cannot have nice good things. If we solve the bad people problem we can have good things available to those that need them.
chronological, Apr 21 2022
  

       I don't see an idea here, just a poorly articulated wish list with no real indication of how any of it that we don't do already anyway would be done, as it is this looks like WIBNI & Magic to me.   

       Sorry about that, maybe I'm just not reading it right or something, but that is what this looks like to me.
Skewed, Apr 21 2022
  

       I agree with Skewed on this.

Additionally, there is an assumption in this idea that people in 'government' are 'good' & people outside of government are 'bad'. I think it's at least as likely to be the other way around.
DrBob, Apr 21 2022
  

       //If we solve the bad people problem [...]//   

       { Gazes nervously across post- apocalyptic wasteland. Wonders whether any of the blow-flies, rats or cockroaches might also be bad. Realises it's too late to worry about that. Who's that self- righteous arse, parking his ark on that hilltop? }
pertinax, Apr 21 2022
  

       "Well what way have you been going about finding them?"   

       "Well, we ask people 'Are you the enemy?' and if they say 'yes' then we shoot them."
RayfordSteele, Apr 21 2022
  
      
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