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Fictional Universe Studies

Finding out what makes that world tick.
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A field of study in which properties of fictional universes are explored.

For example:

"In Independence Day, a woman is heard complaining due to the disruption, she can't watch the The X-Files.

In The X-Files movie, Mulder urinates on an ID4 poster.

Now, this means that X-Files is fictional in the ID4 universe, and ID4 is fiction in Mulder's universe. If so, then what is the show that the woman complains about not being able to watch in the movie ID4, when being shown in the X-Files universe?

Is it a completely different show? Is she heard at all? Or maybe there actually is a TV show called The X-Files in Mulder's universe, which subsequently was referenced in the movie ID4, of which it's poster Mulder is pissing on.

But what then? does THAT show contain characters called Mulder or Scully? Or are they based on Jose Chung's from Out of Space? Is Scully played by Tea Leoni?"

Might not be important as cancer research, but still pretty damn interesting reading.

mrkillboy, Apr 12 2001

IMDB Independence Day references http://us.imdb.com/Mlinks?0116629
[mrkillboy, Apr 12 2001, last modified Oct 21 2004]

IMDB X-Files references http://us.imdb.com/Mlinks?0106179
[mrkillboy, Apr 12 2001, last modified Oct 17 2004]

TV Crossovers & Spin-Offs http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html
He admits he has too much time on his hands [krelnik, Oct 17 2004]

The Eyre affair http://www.amazon.c...&p=S00A#reader-link
A book about fictional worlds and interactions with them. My favorite page is 4, when she gets the Beatles single. You can read it online! [bungston, Sep 08 2006]

Truman syndrome http://en.wikipedia...iki/The_Truman_Show
[normzone, May 18 2015]

/r/fantheories https://www.reddit.com/r/fantheories
[notexactly, May 05 2017]


       Hmmm--the analysis of the respective Latin American surrealist worlds of Marquez in "Autumn of the Patriarch," Asturias in "Mulata," and Arenas in "Hallucinations" would be daunting and no doubt end with the analyst becoming insane. Go on, I dare you.
Dog Ed, Apr 12 2001

       just read a philip pullman book. no offense, but he probably writes a lot better than most of us
dingbats247, Aug 14 2002

       Tea Leoni played herself in an episode of the X Files.
po, Aug 14 2002

       you lost me just after the " for example " bit, but croissant anyways.
kaz, Aug 14 2002

       read again kaz, it may take 2 or 3 readings but you get there in the end.
po, Aug 14 2002

       wow thats screwy. my brain hurts
kaz, Aug 14 2002

       sorry, try again in 6 months.
po, Aug 14 2002

       // one reality is enough for me, most days. //   

       What reality?
sadie, Aug 15 2002

       [po]: I thought that Tea Leoni (Mrs Duchovny) played Scully, and Gary Shandling played Mulder. Are we thinking of the same episode?
angel, Aug 15 2002

       This is amazingly interesting. There's a website, one I can't find at the moment, featuring literature within literature. Neil Gaiman's "Sandman" series, for example, includes books only dreamed of. Many works of literature mention fictional works. Many refer to true-life ones as well. Douglas Adams's "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" offers an intriguing quandary regarding Coleridge and Bach.
Rhetoric, Sep 13 2002

       Very interesting. Perhaps the idea could be used to elucidate a link between Baudrillard's 'Simulacrum' and Derrida's 'Differance'. An everlasting chain of associations with no referent which exists in an unstable 'hyper-real' vacuum of representaion...erm, you dig?
BrianMaiden, Apr 15 2003

       Read Jorge Luis Borges, especially Tlon, Uqbar, Orbus Tertius. This story is about a fictional planet that became so exhaustively documented that it eventually supplanted our own.
jacksheet, Feb 08 2004

       I thought this was going to be a serious textbook on the nature of various universes in fiction, which a professor would use to teach a class. "Gary, Shelly decicided to make it possible in the universe of Frankenstein to create life in a laboratory. What does that suggest about her?" But it seems to be a pop-culture trivia book.
ConsultingDetective, Feb 21 2004

       I just had an idea which I think should go here.
All phone-numbers in America start with 555, right?
So there are a maximum of 10,000 phone lines in any area code.
Some places have a lot of films set in them.
Therefore it may be possible to work out which people in different films live in the same house.

       For example New York. I just found a website which lists area codes, it looks like New York has 14 area codes. Therefore if one could identify the area, you could potentially work out that a household contained a murderer, a basketball player, and a superhero.   

       Another example, there is one area code for all of Arkansas. Are there many films set there? I don't know, but it is a fantastic opportunity for a media studies thesis.
Loris, Sep 08 2006

       I try to take the realities one at a time, but today all of them seem to have attacked me at once...
froglet, Sep 09 2006

       I'm not sure if this is actually an idea, it seems to be just a question. At least it's an interesting question.
wagster, Sep 09 2006

       I'm not sure if this is actually an idea, it seems to be just a question. At least it's an interesting question. Another question: do all American phone numbers really start with 555?
wagster, Sep 09 2006

       In some universe or other, yes. 555 is used in fiction to keep people from dialing real numbers in this universe.
normzone, Sep 09 2006

       Also, in 1998 the Earth was menaced by not one but two asteroids (as documented in Armagedden and Deep Impact).   

       This seems to me like an opportunity missed.
If the makers of these two films has collaborated, it would surely have been spectacular to smash these two heavenly bodies into each other.
Loris, May 18 2015

       No one in the Archers listens to The Archers despite being in the Archer-listening demographic. Likewise, no one on EastEnders watches EastEnders.
hippo, May 18 2015

       There are already people who spend their lives studying fictional universes. They are called 'theologians'.
MaxwellBuchanan, May 18 2015

       mfd widely known to exist - there are "Lord of the Ring" courses and the like at real universities.   

       What should be implemented, as an extension, are courses that include the physical properties, not just social, of make believe universes - theories of magic, pre-Newtonian physics (okay, some of that is still around), as well as religions and political system theories (communism, capitalism, et cetera).
FlyingToaster, May 18 2015

       // there are "Lord of the Ring" courses and the like at real universities//   

       No, there are not. More or less by definition.
MaxwellBuchanan, May 18 2015

       Will Truman ever bother watching reruns of himself?
RayfordSteele, May 19 2015

       On Orphan Black, actor Tatiana Maslany turns out to be one of the many clone sisters.
tatterdemalion, May 19 2015

       //the Original Star Trek episodes predate the first Star Wars, doesn’t it? //   

       But surely Star Trek is set in the age of Lycra and Tricorders, whereas Star Wars is set in a galaxy long ago?   

       Actually it bothers me a little that I know those things.
MaxwellBuchanan, May 19 2015

       It may have been long ago _and_ far away (or long away and far ago). The Clangers, I believe were set in the Age of Knitwear which, according to the standard chronology, fell between the Late Bronze Age and 1977*.   

       [*1986 in Wales]
MaxwellBuchanan, May 19 2015

       //You really should try some of this material at an open mic night.//   

       I did. It was an interesting experience, but the audience response wasn't what I'd hoped for. It was only later they told me it was meant to be a seminar.
MaxwellBuchanan, May 19 2015

       That is excellent news. I really wouldn't worry about the money - at times I've been down to my last hundred-K, and it's surprising how you can get by.   

       Moreover, pulling oneself out of that particular type of hole is one of the most difficult feats known to mankind, so I shall toast you (pauses for toast) with a glass of the finest Cava that Tesco can furnish.   

       Live long and improper.
MaxwellBuchanan, May 19 2015


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