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Nosey Parters

venetian blind security system
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Nosey Parters are a set of mechanical fingers that rove around the inside of your venetian blinds, parting the slats randomly, when you are away from home.
xenzag, May 18 2007

https://www.tumblr....y-2007?source=share [xenzag, Jan 31 2024]

Holiday Pictures- Willem De Haan https://www.willemd...liday-pictures.html
responses to other people's art, each with attribution [Loris, Jan 31 2024]

I 'ham a good egg! https://www.youtube...watch?v=SHqaG6CnBh4
totally brilliant [xenzag, Feb 01 2024]

"It was all in self-defense!" https://www.newswis...ked-anyone-is-false
[pertinax, Feb 02 2024]

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       Hah!   

       (put them in the guest room)+
skinflaps, May 18 2007
  

       brilliant
zeno, May 18 2007
  

       Change them into large mechanical toes, and then call it "Neighbourhood Sasquatch"
Ling, May 18 2007
  

       Perfect for a window facing the nosey neighbors. [+]
nuclear hobo, May 18 2007
  

       Are these the same disembodied fingers that have been turning your brother's soap after his shower (see link)?
pertinax, May 18 2007
  

       I think that the creator of the link may have been sent out of the room.
xenzag, May 19 2007
  

       <off-topic>
Odd. He arrives, he posts like a maniac for a couple of weeks, (including some quite good ones), and then he vanishes. Maybe the other brother is after him for identity theft. Either that or his date murdered him for bringing her the wrong soda. Or Long John Silver took revenge for the appropriation of his inflation-proof bullion coinage.
</off-topic>
pertinax, May 19 2007
  

       These might go well with my...   

       Where did my venetian blades idea go? Did I delete that myself...   

       Well, your idea is better anyway, and I guess the venetian blades could be hard on the parters.   

       Do the nosey parters come in a curtain variety as well?
ye_river_xiv, May 19 2007
  

       See last link: I came across this work on instagram. On looking further I have noticed several other pieces of "his" work that are more than similar to ideas I posted here many years before this Willem person generated them. There's not much anyone can do about this sort of thing of course, but it saves me making the piece of course. I'll just use his pic of my idea instead! ha
xenzag, Jan 31 2024
  

       //See last link: I came across this work on instagram. On looking further I have noticed several other pieces of "his" work that are more than similar to ideas I posted here many years before this Willem person generated them. There's not much anyone can do about this sort of thing of course, but it saves me making the piece of course. I'll just use his pic of my idea instead! ha//   

       xenzag, the world is filled with other people, and some of them may have ideas similar to yours independently. You say he's posted other derivative ideas, but... well, I think you may have forgotten to add the last link.   

       I found the artist's portfolio, I haven't found the image you reference.
I'm not saying he's not been inspired by you - from his portfolio, I found examples of him being inspired and responding to various artworks - and each time, with attribution. (I will post a link to one such page.)
So if he's not attributing to you, perhaps he just thought up the idea independently?
  

       What are the other ideas of yours which you think he's been inspired by?   

       I mean, I'd say it's good if your ideas are inspiring things, but yes, attribution is appropriate.
Loris, Jan 31 2024
  

       Know what I'd love to see? You xenzag having an actual traveling art show of your very original pieces. Make that the center of your life. Anybody can throw out political insults and start dumb flame wars on the internet, but you've got a talent for interesting visual art.   

       What would be more satisfying for you? Flame wars on the HB or a traveling art show making you some actual big money and making people happy? Just a thought.
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2024
  

       I show work constantly, including at international level. I just choose to keep that world separate from this one.
xenzag, Jan 31 2024
  

       Well I'd love to see a show of yours, I'd support it totally but I understand wanting to keep anonymity.
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2024
  

       Doc, I'm familiar with [xenzag]'s current and past professional work. I can assure you he is an actively working. world renowned artist.   

       I won't post the proofs here though, as [xenzag] insists he needs to keep HB separate from his professional work, and likes to pretend he's done so. Even so, he's easy enough to find with very little effort.
a1, Jan 31 2024
  

       I'm not a creepy stalker so if somebody wants to retain their anonymity I'm gonna respect that.
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2024
  

       Appreciated
xenzag, Jan 31 2024
  

       //I won't post the proofs here though, as [xenzag] insists he needs to keep HB separate from his professional work, and likes to pretend he's done so.//   

       That's some top-tier trolling, right there.
Loris, Jan 31 2024
  

       Ugh, no kidding.
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2024
  

       Oh, puh-leeze... Doc signs his real name to his some of his HB postings, and often name drops of people he's known and worked with. Xenzag posts pictures of his art on Tumblr and says "I also have an Instagram page" (with his real name on it) but won't post the link to it.   

       People who want anonymity generally don't do those kinds of things. Or at least they shouldn't expect it or whine when someone points it out.   

       I won't dox them here but I will say this.. you check out xenzag's and recognize an accomplished, working artist. Look around for doc's and at best you'll find a handful of articles in obscure publications, most of which say something like "whatever happened to...?"
a1, Jan 31 2024
  

       Or we could just leave each other alone to enjoy the HB without bothering each other, that would work too.   

       If you don't like somebody obsessing about them seems pretty pointless. Just avoid them, enjoy your life and move on.   

       That's my approach anyway.
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2024
  

       // we could just leave each other alone to enjoy the HB without bothering each other, that would work too. //   

       Except you don't do that.   

       Not a word was spoken about ANY halfbaker in this conversation until your comment about "dumb flame wars" a little while ago.   

       And in other dumb flame HB wars, you're usually the first to direct personal insults and name-calling at another Halfbaker. A cat hisses or a dog yips, and you're ready to drop kick it down the street - then complain they started it and that you stood up to them. Bully for you!   

       Yes, let's all be nice to each other.
a1, Jan 31 2024
  

       Never once threw the first punch, ever. Here's what you're referring to: //Anybody can throw out political insults and start dumb flame wars on the internet, but you've got a talent for interesting visual art.// That on the heels of that other mess on another post, me pointing out that I think xenzag's above that. That's a compliment, not an insult.   

       But tell you what, let's just stay away from each other, agreed?   

       Don't post on my ideas, I won't post on your ideas, we'll just be out of each other's lives. Okay?
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2024
  

       Nope. As others have said for themselves, I'll post what I want.   

       But I'll try my hardest to be nice.
a1, Jan 31 2024
  

       I'll put some tea on.   

       {waits for cries of "How dare you? We're coffee drinkers here!"}
pertinax, Jan 31 2024
  

       // waits for cries of "How dare you? We're coffee drinkers here!" //   

       Not from here. I *do* prefer coffee but accept that it's not everyone's cup of tea.
a1, Feb 01 2024
  

       //Never once threw the first punch, ever// "You throw ball against me, I throw ball against you" Roberto Benigni - Down By Law (one of best films ever made) - see link for clip
xenzag, Feb 01 2024
  

       Yup, that's how it works. Except the guy was the aggressor who technically fired the first shot by cheating. Defense is moral, offense is immoral.   

       Hey, that's Tom Waits, one of my many heroes!
doctorremulac3, Feb 01 2024
  

       //Defense is moral, offense is immoral//   

       If only it were that simple.   

       Large empires often tell a story about themselves in which all their wars were defensive wars, and all those extra territories arrived by some kind of accident. (See link for a recent example, but other examples go back at least as far as Julius Caesar).   

       On a smaller scale, consider this scenario:   

       Tetricus makes what he believes to be a pertinent and reasonable statement of fact. Procrustes believes it to be a mortal insult and a grotesque distortion of reality. In the resulting flame war between Tetricus and Procrustes, who is the aggressor?   

       You might say, it depends on whether the original statement was true. But, to resolve the matter in that way, you need a previously agreed epistemological model of some kind, and it turns out those are surprisingly hard to find. You might think everyone agrees that science and evidence should decide these things - but then you find out that different people have different definitions of what's science and what's pseudo-science, and different standards of evidence.   

       Anyway, it's complicated.   

       Cookies?
pertinax, Feb 02 2024
  

       The winners decide the causes of all conflicts.
xenzag, Feb 02 2024
  

       That's just what a winner would say. wait...
Voice, Feb 02 2024
  

       Procrustes should be designated the loser because he has a sillier name.
pocmloc, Feb 02 2024
  
      
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