h a l f b a k e r yThe phrase 'crumpled heap' comes to mind.
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I have noticed several public displays of tear-holding-
back in the
last
several weeks by news anchors -
(edited)
I have also noticed in myself, having recently learned,
finally, to
sing, that when I actually hit on the emotion of a song,
my voice
completely breaks, and I have no control
over it. I have
also seen
this kind of lack of control in the face of an unsuccessful
artist I
knew, and in the voice of a cousin giving a eulogy for his
brother.
At
the same time, another brother of that cousin gave his
eulogy with
stoney-voiced calm. The difference between the two
brothers
was
that the stoney-voiced one had a large family and fewer
psychological problems, and the artist had dedicated his
life to an
art with no evidence of success, and no family, and in my
own
case I
have pretty much dedicated my life to art and ideas and
don't
have a
family, so that it makes me think that the shakey/Stoney
voiced
hing
in the face of emotion is about exercise -- meaning that
if you
constantly exercise your emotions they will be under your
control,
but if you displace your emotions by practicing artifice
(art), then
when the real emotions hit you, your muscles will act
like
someone
who has just done 100 push-ups for the first time -- they
won't
respond to your commands.
The other side of this is that, lately, since I am finally
practicing
singing all the time, I have realized that if you plow
through the
emotions each time rather than just stopping because it
sounds so
out of control, that you slowly get stronger and more in
control of
your voice.
So all of this is kind of a long winded way of saying just
keep
practicing and you will succeed. Except that I
specifically mean in
public and with your raw voice. I imagine this is what
wailing was
or
still is about in cultures where there is a lot of violence
and lot of
the mourning process is in public, that people get really
good and
in
control at expressing it.
And I think this has also been expressed as, "there are
good criers
and bad criers," as in you have to know which kind of
crier you are
--
how your face looks when you cry, especially when you
are new in
a
relationship, because if your partner has not really seen
you cry
yet
and you only know your own crying from the movies,
then when he
moment comes, you might think you are going to look
like Brad
Pitt
welling up when infact you are going to look like Don
Knotts and
she
is going to run screaming.
There are adult, "at-a-point-of-high-potential-for-
emotional-
cross-
pollination" cries, and there are less adult, "realizing-
that-I- am-a-
bully-and-that-being- a-bully-can't-be-a-self-identity-
and-so- I-
have-
no-self-identity" cries. But I guess that with practice
both can be
improved through exercise.
So, inspired by these recent public criers, could there be
some
kind
of platform just for public displays of crying? Maybe the
crying
could
be beautified, not covered up but amplified with video
and audio
augmentation and artistry to make it easier to stomach
for people
who are afraid of their own emotion.
OpenEmotion.com
Melissa Harris Perry
http://m.youtube.co...h%3Fv%3DXqCIUyhYg2s [JesusHChrist, Jan 28 2014]
Zain Asher
http://www.dailymai...ion-best-actor.html [JesusHChrist, Jan 28 2014]
Crying
http://www.faithit....ionship-disability/ [JesusHChrist, Jan 28 2014]
news anchor fights back tears
http://uproxx.com/s...tt-on-sportscenter/ [JesusHChrist, Jan 06 2015]
[link]
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I think maybe the best thing is to not try not to cry and
simply sing the song, or speak, or whattever while crying.
Trying to hold back crying makes it burst through. Some
people are cryers and some people arn't, and I'm not sure
your theorizing has reached the final conclusion. The
cousin you mention whose voice didn't break probably is
not a cryer. If someone is a cryer then they should just
cry, and I think openemotion.com is a good idea to make
crying more mainstream. |
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//notoriously stultified in white male paternalistic culture// |
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This premise is from a hundred years ago*, when people still believed in psychoanalysis. Please try to keep up. |
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*I mean this literally; Somerset Maugham, for example, would have nodded approvingly. |
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TLDR: //could there be some kind of platform just
for public displays of crying?// |
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Try leading with this instead of //mixed race
female news anchors//, because //the promised
conversation on race and sex that we are
supposed to be having// is already happening, but
you have to look for it. To summarize: there's
oppressive injustice where you live that you're
unaware of and haven't bothered to learn about
because you're not oppressed. [-] |
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//video and audio augmentation and artistry to
make it easier to stomach// So basically you want
to auto-tune the ranting homeless person on the
street corner. That's the right amount of horrifying
for a modern art piece. |
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The crying response has multiple causes. |
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Factors in more frequent / easier triggered crying (while speaking or singing) include stress and age (as I get older it happens more often). |
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I was raised not to be afraid to show my emotions, so have a fair amount of practice, but aging is definitely a factor. Not sure why. |
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I cry at a good truck commercial. |
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Is there a difference between someone in a situation, with emotion, and crying and one whom is showed a portrayal which invokes an emotion? The first has real investment and the second, although maybe of some benefit, is contrived, a Pavlov response. |
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The reality is, the emotion is as only as good as the investment. If you can fight the crying, the emotion, baggage, ties weren't strong enough. |
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I disagree. Not that I'm any good at concealing emotion. But some persons have tighter controls than others. This does not diminish their emotions any. |
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