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Surf Chimes

Windchime like device activated by waves rolling in.
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Standing 3 or 4 feet high and mounted in a tide pool, water moving in would activate them and make pleasant wind chime sounds. They'd be very big so they'd have to be dampened a bit so they wouldn't sound like loud clanging bells which wouldn't be pleasant.

It would look pretty too, like a modern art sculpture thingy.

doctorremulac3, Jul 23 2022

Sea Organ https://weburbanist...ith-crashing-waves/
[xenzag, Jul 24 2022]

Water doesn't completely dampen the ring. https://www.youtube...watch?v=HUjWRYKIYeI
But the tubes would fill and empty making a sliding note. [doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022]

Might sound a little like the weird bendy chime sound at the intro to this song. https://www.youtube...watch?v=06lWmDg7i7Q
Used to be one of my favorite cover songs to sing back in the day. [doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022]

They'd move like this. https://www.youtube...watch?v=PcfeZuUws44
[doctorremulac3, Jul 25 2022]

Closest thing I could find to the basic idea. https://www.alamy.c...lies-101585284.html
Be spread along a wider area and just a few feet tall. Color would be natural weathered metal, probably copper, with a nice green patina. [doctorremulac3, Jul 25 2022]

Bells in water proof of concept https://www.youtube...watch?v=VxBsmGeXM2I
My design would sound similar but with rising and falling tones. [doctorremulac3, Jul 25 2022]

Experiment! https://youtu.be/Pln47StEpxM
Hitting a wind chime with a stick while it's in a bucket [Loris, Aug 13 2022]

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       Just occurred to me, there would be holes in the bottom of the chime tubes to let the rising and lowering water in. As they chimed the pitch would rise and fall as the water filled and emptied from the tube. This would make this sound very unique as the chime sounds rose and fell at random.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       see link. Not quite the same....but uses passage of seawater to make resonant sounds.
xenzag, Jul 24 2022
  

       My god Xen, that is magnificent!   

       My only criticism is it's playing a major chord and sounds a bit man made. I'm thinking the randomness of my thing would be more soothing.   

       I kind of want to do this. It would be weighed down so it woudn't float away, but if a storm came the sea decides to take it I'd say "Fair enough.".   

       I'd like to see a lot more sculptures in nature, along hiking trails and such.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       Curious about that bone. This seems like such a harmless idea. Just curious why such a friendly idea would be hit. Is it just an "I hate you!" sniper bone or is there a legit criticism of this idea? Either one's fine and I cheerfully accept either, just curious.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       Maybe it's a nostalgic autoboner re-enactment.
pertinax, Jul 24 2022
  

       I’ll even it up [+]
xenzag, Jul 24 2022
  

       Thank you Xenzag, I think we were meant to be on this site as a sort of ying/yang thing, butting heads and whatnot, but when we see eye to eye, Venn diagram style, it's always on (mostly your) art stuff which I have great respect for.   

       I hope you remember when you were talking about quitting, I was one of many who asked you to stay. This site would not be the same without you. You're a staple as much as 8th or Max was. People can disagree and still work together eh? Sometimes anyway. Thank you for the bun, probably my favorite bun in all the years I've been here.   

       And by the way, nothing against autoboning, they're just better with comments. This is a chat site after all. Remember how broken hearted 8th would be when a flame war would flicker out? God I miss that guy.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       I think chimes need to be able to vibrate, and having water in would damp them rather too much. In both senses of the word. Unless the sound you wanted was muffled clunks.   

       But all is not lost. You could use a frame to hold the chimes above water, with a clapper hanging down into the waves.
Loris, Jul 24 2022
  

       We’ll that’s the idea, to somewhat dampen them. Otherwise it would sound like a crate full of exhaust pipes rolling down a staircase.   

       Keep in mind, these are 3 to 5 feet tall. Think of wine glasses with varying amounts of water in them, the water doesn’t dampen the ding or the note if you’re playing it with a wet finger, it just determines the frequency.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       That's a good point.
I'm still not sure it'll work though.
  

       Wine glasses are made of thin glass, while wind chimes are generally made of metal. and I think the physical characteristics of the material and the shape might be different enough not to substitute.
And probably chimes wouldn't survive long if made of glass (particularly not if scaled up and exposed to the elements at the seashore).
  

       Also relevant - you can stop a tuning fork pretty quickly by putting it too deep into water.   

       My intuition could totally be wrong, though.
Loris, Jul 24 2022
  

       Clearly we’re past the theoretical speculation stage and need to move on to making a prototype to test. Let me mess around with this and I’ll report the results.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       And just occurred to me what the prototype could be, something you put in a fountain or decorative little pond that imparts the cycle of up and down and movement to ding them together with a rotating actuator underneath to give the sound effect. Could even do a desktop version.   

       This sounds like a nice weekend project when I get some other business crap that's eating my life out of the way.
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       I was thinking of trying an existing wind-chime in a bucket. Might get the chance to try that in a few weeks.
Loris, Jul 24 2022
  

       That would test the basic premise, just move them up and down in the water. That's real easy, get hollow wind chimes and a bucket.   

       I'm guessing it might sound like multiples of this sound from the intro to this really cool old guitar song. (link)
doctorremulac3, Jul 24 2022
  

       Just to clarify the design, they're secured by driving a rod into the sand, there's a chain leading to a float, all of this is under water, then extended up from the float is the tube with holes in the bottom to let water freely flow in and out. The movement would be like underwater plants. (link) Only the metal part sticks out of the water.   

       I want to check out a smaller version for fountains too. The water movement from a water feature might be enough to tinkle these things. They have a version with bells but mine would do the rising and falling tones thing.
doctorremulac3, Jul 25 2022
  

       //That would test the basic premise, just move them up and down in the water. That's real easy, get hollow wind chimes and a bucket.//   

       Always do the simplest, cheapest experiment which can test a concept first.
Loris, Jul 25 2022
  

       Yup. And not just because it's easier. I find that sloppy first time prototypes can give you more info due to their imperfection. So if an inexact sloppy mockup works, great. If it doesn't, it can expose a flaw that might not have become apparent with a carefully finished product, if that makes any sense.   

       So that bell fountain thing in the link? I'm going to make a desktop version of this only with the uppy downy dingy tubes.
doctorremulac3, Jul 25 2022
  

       Loris! Wow! Thank you for that link!   

       It works!!!   

       I modified my design to have the pipes more parallel to the water so the movement and tone bending is more pronounced.
doctorremulac3, Aug 13 2022
  

       Good news everyone!   

       While on holiday at my parents, we performed said experiment, and the results are documented in a short video on youtube, on my wife's youtube account.   

       I think it worked pretty well, and shows that the concept is indeed feasible. The sound is muffled, but not enormously so, and the pitch varies as you'd expect.   

       I would like to thank the indulgence of my father and daughter in performing and recording this project.
The water in the bucket was disposed of responsibly after filming.
Loris, Aug 13 2022
  

       Oh my gosh! You did this? You're awesome! Thank all involved, you made my day!!!
doctorremulac3, Aug 13 2022
  

       You're most welcome. We had fun doing it.
It did take a few goes to get a video which showed what I wanted.
Loris, Aug 13 2022
  

       //I modified my design to have the pipes more parallel to the water so the movement and tone bending is more pronounced.//   

       I think you will need the pipes to be vertical, so they're perpendicular to the water surface. Otherwise, the resonant height would vary across the tube. As demonstrated above, though, I'm sometimes wrong.
Loris, Aug 13 2022
  

       I'm also thinking of having them bent to there's a portion that's verticle and a portion that's at an angle to the water so the varying contact area between pipe and water is expanded.   

       I'm so busy I've had this on my weekend project list for weeks now. I really need a break to do something fun like this. I'll let you know the results.   

       Thanks again for doing that Loris, you're awesome!
doctorremulac3, Aug 13 2022
  
      
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