h a l f b a k e r ycarpe demi
add, search, annotate, link, view, overview, recent, by name, random
news, help, about, links, report a problem
browse anonymously,
or get an account
and write.
register,
|
|
|
This idea is based largely on an
idea published in "The book of highs;
250 ways to alter consciousness
without drugs", Edward Rosenfeld, Quadrangle, 1973.
Attach a video camera (a camcorder
will do fine) as an input to a DVR
(TiVo or Replay TV). Place the
camera on top of the TV, both
facing
the viewer. Set up the DVR
to make the camera
the current video source. You are
now staring at yourself. Hit the
pause button. Wait a few seconds.
Un-pause it. You are now staring at yourself a few seconds in the past.
Chances are, your first reaction will
be to smile. After a few seconds, your image will smile back at you.
You will then react to that. Your
next reaction might be to laugh,
to stare more intently at the image,
whatever. After a few seconds, that
reaction will display. You will then
react to that.
And so on; each reaction loops back
to provoke yet another reaction. You
are now interacting with yourself.
Get to know you.
You should; you are an interesting
person and you should get to know yourself better. It'd be good for both of you.
The pause interval doesn't have to
be as short as a few seconds. In
fact, try other intervals; try 30
seconds, a minute, 5 minutes.
The kind of interaction you get can
vary with the interval you use.
"Playback delay" is BTW a more
accurate term than pause interval.
Set this up at your next party.
I suggest you leave it in a
room by itself, so that people
can experience it alone if they
like, or with others. This also
lets people control whether they
choose to interact this way, which
otherwise would invade privacy to
some extent.
Rosenfeld's 1973 book described
the setup of two videotape machines
sharing a single tape. The machine with the video camera recorded onto the tape, the machine with the TV played back the tape, and the two machines were a few feet from each other, thus the length of the tape
determined the playback delay.
Needless to say this was impossible on home equipment, and a daunting
challenge even for an AV whiz. Thus
I doubt it was done many times.
The sheer technical difficulty kept
it just an interesting idea. But
today it could be done at millions
of homes in America. The equipment
is just a PVR and video camera.
A variation described by Rosenfeld,
best limited to parties where
everyone accepts it as an intense,
experimental experience: set up
several cameras, say one in each
room, each attached to a remote
monitor located elsewhere in the house, using playback delays
of say at least 30 minutes. That way
everyone experiences everyone
including themselves both live and
via tape delay randomly at all times.
So this isn't you interacting with
yourself any more, not an individual
interacting with himself, but the
entire group interacting with the
entire group. Get to know you.
All of you.
Time-delayed mirror
http://www.halfbake...me-delayed_20mirror Similar idea, different intent. [phoenix, Jul 11 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
deja vu home
http://www.halfbake...ea/deja_20vu_20home The aural version of this idea [hippo, Jul 11 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
Mirract
http://windowsphone...4-b2d3-709d65d343a4 Inspired by this idea, I made it for Windows Phone. Check it out :) [Appductors, Feb 06 2012]
Police Officer chased himself.
http://www.telegrap...en-for-burglar.html Tangentially relevant. Big Brother is apparently too busy watching himself to watch you too. [DrBob, Feb 10 2012]
Please log in.
If you're not logged in,
you can see what this page
looks like, but you will
not be able to add anything.
Destination URL.
E.g., https://www.coffee.com/
Description (displayed with the short name and URL.)
|
|
So you're posting someone else's idea? |
|
|
A big reason I come to this site I think is the education I get on such a wide variety of different subjects. It's just the sort of 'club' that I'm surprised to be admitted to. So while I have to fish this 'cause of non-originality, I'm glad I read it. |
|
|
Nice idea - already halfbaked for audio-only personal
feedback - see link. [phoenix, UnaBubba,
RayfordSteele, kt] - don't be too quick to chastise [jpk]
for unoriginality. For me, the clever bit of this idea is the
way [jpk] suggests using the built-in features of a Tivo to
do something the designers didn't really intend it to do. |
|
|
hippo: I agree. Let us not be too harsh on jpk. Maybe he has not quite understood what this site is about. His idea of using a TiVo is just sufficiently innovative to prevent this being classed as pure plagiarism; in effect, he is simply describing a "better mousetrap". |
|
|
The idea itself is worthy of discussion and consideration and since it seems to be sincere, I would merely encourage jpk to try for something a little more innovative next time. |
|
|
UnaBubba: I'm not sure of its origins, but it's basically a video recording device with a very large hard disk instead of a tape. It has the advantage that it's truly random access, and you can watch one programme while recording another. I think the basic model stores about 8 hours of video. They haven't achieved much market penetration yet as they're rather more expensive than a basic VHS box. |
|
|
[UB]: And you can do things with the TiVo like ask it to record every episode of *Law and Order* airing on any channel you have at any time within a specified period. I believe that you can teach it your preferences over time and it will record everything it thinks you would like to watch. |
|
|
And you can choose to never watch another commercial, if that is your wish. |
|
|
TiVo scares the crap out of a lot of advertising types. It's technology like this that will push branding messages into the *content* of programs, rather than existing as interruptions before, after, and in the middle of it. |
|
|
I'm guessing that in 2009 people have heard about DVRs (while collective memory is fading about video tape). Most DVRs are integrated with a media provider like DirecTV, Dish, or Comcast. However some DVRs are standalone and accept any video input, like TiVo. These latter devices are capable of this little trick. Try it for your next party. |
|
|
In a way, we've done this here. We're reacting to ourselves seven years earlier. |
|
|
How young and innocent we look! |
|
|
We were young. Everything was fresh and new. What did we know. And that was the beauty of it. |
|
|
There should be an app that can do this using a webcam, no? |
|
|
What if you try this, and fall in love? Bone. For the idea, I mean. |
|
|
//What if you try this, and fall in love?// |
|
|
Bun. [+] For the idea, I mean. |
|
|
I'm not sure single recursion would be adequate. |
|
|
Shouldn't there be a webcam set to capture (one's response to the delayed version of)^n ? |
|
|
If things go very very well with this interaction scheme, you could present yourself flowers in the morning. |
|
|
I wonder if you were to simulaneously view yourself while
interacting with yourself from moments earlier could your
consciousness become disembodied and lose awareness of
its originating head. |
|
| |