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Hardcore to ambient glissando

Music track that starts with hardcore and gradually speeds up until it's ambient
 
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Some people here may be familiar with the Hurdy Gurdy Glissando by my fellow Cantuarian Steve Hillage. Now, i understand there are various subgenres of hardcore going by such names as speedcore, splittercore and terrorcore according to their tempo, though how real these are or what order they come in, i have no idea. There is also ambient new age hippy bollocks music which is eerily soothing.

I contend here that these are in fact potentially the same genre.

I demonstrate that this is the case thus. Imagine a five minute music track which starts off as hard core, i.e. around eight dozen beats per minute. For a few seconds, it stays at that tempo, just to lull the listener into a false sense of insecurity. Then it starts to edge up the tempo, transmuting thereby into a variety of different subgenres with respect to the beat, levelling out at about the two minute mark at a rate of five and a half gross BPM. It then stays at that mind-blowing rate for say twenty seconds. Then, over the next ten seconds, it steadily speeds up again until the beats become ambient "melody" without audible percussion. It then stays at ambient until almost the end of the track, then slows down through the different tempos back to hardcore.

nineteenthly, Sep 28 2011

Hurdy Gurdy Glissando by Steve Hillage http://www.youtube....watch?v=Q7x445IVnO8
Album version of this - this doesn't do it. [nineteenthly, Sep 28 2011]

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       Something akin to this exists in the pre-"Play" catalogue of Moby. His track "Thousand" starts off slow, picking up BPM until it hits 1,000 BPM. On the way it passes through pummelling hardcore and then into something like a throbbing drone and then back down again through pummelling hardcore until it comes to a stop. It's not a great track and is completely undanceable.
calum, Sep 28 2011
  

       Hmm, i may have that album. I can see the undanceability but wonder about glissandancing.
nineteenthly, Sep 28 2011
  

       //ambient new age hippy bollocks music// [nineteenthly] - this is the second reference to hippies in as many days. I'm worried. Are you being subjected to an unwelcome resurgent wave of hippyesque new-ageisms, and can the rest of us come to expect a similar trend arising in our society in the coming months?
zen_tom, Sep 28 2011
  

       I too have noticed this sudden outbreak of hippy references (can we please stop conflating hippies with new ageism by the way?) and have been fruitlessly trying to identify where the previous one occurred. I am glad therefore, to come back and find z_t's anno confirming that I didn't just imagine it.
DrBob, Sep 28 2011
  

       Good point DrB - though to be fair, we should be categorising hippies into their 4 main subgroups:
  

       1) New Age Types - dangerous "Aquarians" attuned to the types of self-aggrandising paranoid cult-forming theories publiscised by Crowley, Däniken, Hubbard, Huxley and others etc. Including Magic(k), Crystals, Tarot, Auras, Energies, UFOs, Gods and Spacemen, Lizard Overlords, Drug-based pathways to new dimensions/planes of existance, drugs in general etc. Future Homeless Hippies, or very occasionally, Hippies Who Own Shops. Responds to "hippy bollocks music" (HBM) though will begin to get twitchy if exposed for any length of time.   

       2) Hopelessly Nice Types - harmless (except in large groups wherin they quickly polarise into types 1, 3 or 4) - believe in hair and being nice to one another, self-sufficiency and possibly, llamas. Very pleasant, but ultimately doomed hippies. Enjoys most types of HBM, especially naturalistic types such as "Sounds of The Jungle", or "Whalesong Cantatas".   

       3) Virulent Libertarians - these amoral hippies are the feral kind who've realised through a series of increasigly hard knocks that being nice doesn't do anyone any favours in the long-run and have resorted to arming themselves heavily and booby-trapping large expanses of wilderness in preparation for a series of imagined disasters or state-organised pogroms. May construct apparently "straight" fronts appearing to be successfull businesses. Basically, Criminal or Arch Capitalist Hippies - e.g. Ben and Jerry, Steve Jobs, Iggy Pop (many of whom choose to pretend to belong to hippy-camp N#2). Is liable to react violently to HBM or similar stimuli.   

       4) Moralistic Lefty-Nazi Hippies - direct-action hippies, liable to get involved in other people's business, based on a series of self-imposed dubious moral positions - their passion for good causes usually being rooted in some psychological trauma inflicted earlier on in life. Basically, Terrorist Hippies.   

       The other hippy referece I spotted is 9 anno's up from the bottom of [nineteenthly]'s "Am I mad or Not?" idea, and references hippies on facebook, a subgroup not directly covered here.
zen_tom, Sep 28 2011
  

       Facebook Hippies sound particularly dangerous to me!
DrBob, Sep 28 2011
  

       Hmm, what is my irritation about and can it be categorised in the way you adumbrate, [z_t]? One is that if people spend long enough doing certain things to their brains with various compounds and herbs indicated by boredom, they enter or remain in a state when it becomes physically impossible and subculturally unacceptable not to be flaky, disorganised and irrational, and yet somehow they just breeze through. I suppose one thing which brought it up recently was that a non-client of mine developed a false memory that she had consulted me nearly two dozen years ago and i had recently breached her confidentiality when i've only been practicing for one dozen years, which necessitated several hours of me sorting through patient records in a futile attempt to find her non-existent records. Occupational hazard, i suppose.
nineteenthly, Sep 28 2011
  

       Apparently I missed the re-defining of 'hardcore' as a musical genre.
Alterother, Sep 28 2011
  

       //physically impossible and subculturally unacceptable not to be flaky, disorganised and irrational// That's the real tragedy of the thing, while there may well be a series of positive aspects of counter-culture living and all that goes along with it, the day-to-day reality of it is not just altogether more mundane, but actively damaging as well. I must be turning into my dad, because I used to be well entrenched in the "hippy" camp when I was a teen, only relatively recently becoming aware of quite how much time I wasted being a silly bugger. Thankfully most of the people I knew then came through the other side, but a few didn't make it through unscathed.   

       Blimming hippies.
zen_tom, Sep 28 2011
  

       //physically impossible and subculturally unacceptable not to be flaky, disorganised and irrational// That's the real tragedy of the thing, while there may well be a series of positive aspects of counter-culture living and all that goes along with it, the day-to-day reality of it is not just altogether more mundane, but actively damaging as well. I must be turning into my dad, because I used to be well entrenched in the "hippy" camp when I was a teen, only relatively recently becoming aware of quite how much time I wasted being a silly bugger. Thankfully most of the people I knew then came through the other side, but a few didn't make it through unscathed.   

       Blimming hippies.
zen_tom, Sep 28 2011
  

       Yes, sometimes they lack the attention span to notice they've posted the same thing twice.   

       I was a pretentious, arty teenager who ought to have worn polo necks, so i didn't go there, but yes, totally agree. I also wonder, though, about my own cynicism because it surely cannot be that things are really all that rubbish? They weren't when i was younger, were they?   

       // Apparently I missed the re-defining of 'hardcore' as a musical genre. //   

       I know. It conjures up the image of roads made of crushed vinyl singles.
nineteenthly, Sep 29 2011
  

       //Yes, sometimes they lack the attention span to notice they've posted the same thing twice.// - ha! ( -and oops)   

       //Welcome to the old git club.// [marked-for-tagline]
zen_tom, Sep 29 2011
  

       //       // Apparently I missed the re-defining of 'hardcore' as a musical genre. //      

              I know. It conjures up the image of roads made of crushed vinyl singles. //   

       Actually, I was thinking about bands like Biohazard, Anthrax, Suicidal Tendencies, and Sepultura, which were all definitive of a splinter of heavy metal called hardcore. Apparently that term now applies to some form of techno.
Alterother, Sep 29 2011
  
      
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