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Enter the Hyberian Restaurant. All
staff is from Hyberia. All food
prepared, is unique to the
country of Hyberia, let the chefs
bring you a sampling. Notice how
they have completely different
utensils, that look like enlarged
forks/knives spoons, except with
between thumb and index finger.
Check out the amazing customary
clothing, notice the interesting
accents of the
Hyberians, talk to them about their
culture, ask them about the
on the wall that depict their
mythology and heritage. Get to
the sound, feel, and taste of the
With a couple of [really] creative
chefs and staff/accent/behavior
trainers... create a completely new
and fake country, and bring it's
and culture to the US (and abroad).
every way convincing, the illusion
never dropped. [i'm not a chef but
my brother is, and routinely comes
up with things that i have yet to see
exist anywhere else, so i think this
All the oil products you can eat. Most are poisonous. [Cedar Park, Oct 04 2004]
[DrCurry, Oct 04 2004]
[DrCurry, Oct 04 2004]
baked, without the restaurant [neilp, Dec 20 2004]
||I wouldn't mind a restaurant from
Strongbadia however I think the
food at Hyberia would be tastier.
||I'd like a Hibernian Restaurant, but the food is a bit too greasy.
||So, is there a good name that isn't
going to inspire some thoughts of
grease or countries that exist or
something like that? I spent about
thirty seconds coming up with the
other one but I'd change it if
someone had a better [read:
halfway decent] idea... hopefully
the thoughts of some other
country didn't cause the fish...
||There is a Hibernia National Bank I banked with when in college.
Aglauran? "what was bizarre has become usual, what seemed normal is now an oddity," -Italo Calvino
||Um, I was speaking of Hibernian, not Hyberian. I was trying to make a subtle (maybe too much so) reference to a huge off-shore oil drilling project. [link]
||You don't mean "Iberia", then? How about France? That's a fake country, isn't it?
||Which sex is the Hymensroom for?
||The ruse would be even more sustainable if the theme represented a fictional ethnic group with no nation of its own, like Kurds and Catalonians (although the Kurds and Catalonians, of course, are not fictional).
||-Black toothed waitresses sporting enormeous cleavage serving blue stuff.
-Specialty: wild sfiltersturn (in heavy syrup).
||Is the intent to fool people? Anyone with half a mind for geography, or a globe at home, will know it's a ruse, and word will get our rather quickly among those who wouldn't have known otherwise.
||Cedar, I've been to many Hibernian pubs in my time.
Hibernia is more commonly (and originally) used as the name of the island which is occupied by the various Irelands.
||Yes, of course people will think
is a ruse but many won't care. Is it
really any worse than a restaurant
that pretends to be from a country
that does exist, but gets all of the
manerisms, food and style wrong.
I like Outback steakhouse for the
food but if you are visiting from
Austrailia please be gentle to the
people who work there and play
along with their theme.
||My intent was definitely not to try
to fool anyone who really looked
into the geography, but rather to
make sure all the amenities were
authentic-seeming enough that
people could let themselves be
convinced, if they wanted to go for
I think that for many people,
finding out it was a fake, and
indeed completely unique, would
only add to their appreciation if it
was done properly, and given the
care it would need to succeed.
||I don't see the problem to fool or confuse. Seems like fun to me.
Moreso, I was thinking of what passed as Hyberian in the classical greek times, an unknown region to the north.
Where I live there's Friday's and Bennigans, but for everyone both are gringo restaurants, and yes, we play along.
||This brought to mind a hibernation restaurant, they give you a big feed and a cave to go to to sleep it off!
||I'm agreeing with you xercyn, I
would definately go to a restraunt
||// think that for many people, finding out it was a fake, and indeed completely unique, would only add to their appreciation if it was done properly //
||I dunno. I think most people would wonder what the point was. "Oh, it's just a pretend country? Okay... um, why?" Because it's fun to eat pretend country food?
||Real ethnic food has culture and reason and history behind it. This would just be one chef's made up hooey. I fail to see any attraction.
||My point is mainly that (1) anyone
that wanted to could always find
out that the country/culture wasn't
'real', and more importantly (2)
that the intent is to spend the
proper amount of time to make it
so the food really 'does' have the
history to go along with it, so that
it's not just one chef's whimsy, but
really several chefs, several
historians, authors, creative types,
that could really sit down and
figure out what is necessary to
make it a complete experience. So
that the person who finds out that
it's not a real country doesn't say /
/Ok... , um why?// but rather
how did they think of all this."
[that'd be the goal anyway] It's like
some made up world at Universal
Studios or Epcot or something,
except for adults, and thus
thought out on deeper levels. [and
yes, i still like both of those
||// that the person who finds out that it's not a real country doesn't say / /Um, ok why?// but rather "wow. how did they think of all this." //
||But that's my point. No matter how much work you put into it to make it detailed and realistic-like... people still aren't going to say "how did they think of all this"... they are going to say 'why'. Furthermore, they'll say "why did they put so much work and effort to get this so detailed if it isn't even a real country?" You seem to be missing that point. That fake-country thing doesn't work.
||Perhaps if you based it in the future, or on another planet. Or better yet, dig up some ancient culture that did exist and try to extrapolate their culture and food. But if it's just made-up for made-up's sake, why would anyone bother. Making up a country isn't hard - go spend some time at Nationstates.com and you'll see lots of 'em.
||You tell him Jutta. ::holding
Silmarillion in one hand typing
||This idea then is not a metaphor for the h a l f b a k e r y?
||Ha, sorry about that. Rather lazy
of myself wasn't it? I fixed that
error just for you.
But really, why should I bother
spelling a made up word correctly?
||No, just razzing ya. Honestly,
most places on the web don't
appriciate correct spelling or
||Jutta- best description I think I've
ever read. I contemplated
replacing my entire description
with your analogy. Briefly, anyway.
It could be a -smidge- tough to
decipher on its own.
||What the world really needs now is a good, down-home "Elbonian" ristorante and patisserie, Dilbert style. No more of this "Hyberian" confusion with Hibernia, Iberia, Siberia, or even the Titan Hyperion (though one has to wonder what dishes named "Roast Helios", "Sauteed Selene" and "Egged Eos" might taste like).
||// Lord of the Rings : Linguistics = Hyberian Restaurant : Cooking. //
||Presuming the chef cooks as well as Tolkein writes, maybe. It could also equate to bad Piers Anthony puns.
||Having seen the level of originality in the creation of unique dishes by experienced chefs, i think this would be great if pulled off correctly. I'd forego the trained waiters as this becomes too novelty and would make the restaurant one of those expensive theme restaurants with crappy food that yuppies go to for the environment.
||I agree. Many restaurants already tell you their "story" on the menu, this just takes that from the nonfiction to the fiction department. Fun. (WTAGIPBAN)