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M2Fs Pay F2Ms at transition

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I'm kind of wondering how people are going to respond to this.

I am known for being skint. However, I also know rather a lot of other trans women who are definitely not skint and the reason for this is that they have had many of the career advantages resulting from being perceived as male up until the point when they transitioned. It also seems to me that when you do transition, you're starting a new life. On the other hand, many of the trans men I know have done pretty poorly in career terms due to having been perceived as female.

Something can be done about this. When a trans woman transitions, she should surrender all her assets, which would I hope go towards paying for her healthcare, thereby bypassing the issue of whether it should be paid by public money. If there's anything left, and there probably would be since it's said to cost well under £20 000, it should go to an F2M transitioner to pay for his transition and also bump up his wealth to the point where it would've been had his gender identity been respected in the first place.

There are clearly problems with proportions of people going either way and also for non-binary people. However, if you want to be accepted as having a different gender than you have historically been perceived to be assigned as, you ought to be able to have your social status adjusted accordingly. Also, either way, you get to start a new life.

nineteenthly, Feb 23 2017

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       Hmm. So many issues.   

       First - a question. Is a "trans man" a former man who converts to womanness, or a former woman who transitions to manness? Without knowing which is which, it's a bit hard to follow.   

       But, as to the idea, I dunno, mate. Should there be pay inequality based on gender or gender identity? No. Should we rectify this? Yes. Should people be up- or down-graded when they change gender? Probably not.
MaxwellBuchanan, Feb 23 2017
  

       It's often suggested that when people transition male to female, they want all the good stuff without any of the bad stuff and that they are therefore fetishising an idealised, or perhaps a caricatured image of femaleness, and also that male privilege continues after transition. This would be a way of putting one's money where one's mouth is and countering that suggestion.   

       A trans woman is an adult who identifies as female but was assigned male at birth.
nineteenthly, Feb 23 2017
  

       Thing is, I identify as English. If I go to live in Ethiopia, I'd sort of feel I was entitled to take my relative wealth with me. Conversely, if an Ethiopian decides he wants to live in Knightsbridge, I'm not convinced that he should be given extra money to help him do so.
MaxwellBuchanan, Feb 23 2017
  

       I'm with Max on this - if pay inequality is a bad thing, then compulsory enforcement of this inequality probably isn't that great either.
hippo, Feb 23 2017
  

       Suggested alternative category choice ...   

       Science: Health: Stress Relief
normzone, Feb 23 2017
  

       Would this include transwomen who are as wealthy as the average woman at transition?
Selky, Feb 24 2017
  

       Well yes, it would have to because I'm totally skint and it would be hypocritical of me to recommend something I wouldn't do myself.   

       It would remove the criticism of taking male privilege with one when one leaves, as it were.
nineteenthly, Feb 25 2017
  

       It would also demonstrate perfectly the problem with calling someone who's worse off than you "privileged".   

       Fishboned, at any rate. It's silly, and not in the humorous way typically found here.
Selky, Feb 25 2017
  
      
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