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I just thought of something I failed to think of 4.5
years ago, regarding the argument (the argument too
place in annotation form in one of my other posts)
about eliminating walkable environments: One reason
so many people hate walking in the winter, one very
BIG reason, is the complete lack
walkable paths in
the winter. There simply aren't any safe places to
walk. Snow plows shove huge berms of snow up onto
the sidewalks to make way for vehicle traffic, so if you
want to walk, you are forced to walk in the street,
with all the slipping/sliding vehicles. Business owners
and property owners are technically required by law to
keep their sidewalks cleared, but most fail to do so
and the law is almost never enforced. Even if it were
enforced, it would be pointless, since the only place
for a business owner to relocate the snow to is back
onto the road from whence it came.
When the big plows get to work on the 3-lane roads,
the typically make berms in 3 places: Left sidewalk,
right sidewalk, and center lane. They then clear the
center lane berm with giant truck-mounted
snowblowers, with the blower spout aiming backwards
into a closely-following dump truck. They then leave
the berms on the sidewalks, just expecting the
business owners and homeowners with storefronts
facing the sidewalks to do something with all that
compacted snow that the CITY put there.
As a result, business owners often clear out small
sections directly in front of the door, and leave the
rest, which makes it very hard for pedestrians to get
anywhere, or they use snowblowers to repatriate the
berm back to the street. It's not hard to spot the
inefficiency with such a system.
Well if the city is going to put the snow there, then
the city should have to get rid of it, and it needn't be
hard. All they need to do is miniaturize the process
used on the roads: golf carts or small tractors with
sidewalk-sized snowblowers, with the spout aimed
into the cargo bed/trailer of a closely-following golf
It would be well worth the few (relatively speaking)
tax dollars it would cost, to achieve some very worthy
goals: increased pedestrian traffic, which results in a
more active economy and fewer traffic collisions.
Pick your favorite, they're all fully-baked.
This was only the first hit on google... [Alterother, Feb 11 2012]
More what I had in mind [Alterother, Feb 11 2012]
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||I have no idea what you're talking about because I live in Tennessee. And I love it here, because I'm glad I have no idea what you're talking about. :-)
|| But to the problem at hand... couldn't they make a step-up extension on their plows that shoved the snow on across the sidewalk to the other side? Sidewalk heights are fairly even, and if there were some sidewalks above normal height relative to the pavement they could be adjusted. It wouldn't have to be cut as close as the plowing on the street... a couple or three inches left on the sidewalk, people could still step through that.
||//couldn't they make a step-up extension on their plows
that shoved the snow on across the sidewalk//
Signs, light poles, mailboxes, parked cars, etc?
||Your municipal snow-removal must suck. In just about
every town and city in Maine that has a sidewalk, you'll
find something like this in the muni fleet <link>. I've even
seen some with little dump-trailers; in my hometown, they
empty them right off the waterfront into the river.
||The snow blower in your link blows the snow off to
the side... the spout wasn't nearly tall enough to blow
it over the back into a trailer. The others just shoved
or 'dispersed' (in the case of the snow broom) the
snow to the side, which is the problem my idea is
designed to overcome.
||Agreed, it was a lazy link. If I looked harder, I'm sure I
could find the ones with the little dump-trailers. My point
is that you could too, and I'm really surprised you don't
have them tooling around your neighborhood, with as much
snow as WA gets. I mean, the town I live in now only has
about 60 yards of sidewalk, and we've got one.
|| <a little later> The one we have here is like this one
<link#2> with a chute that goes back over the cab. It could
be custom-made, I haven't gotten that close a look at it,
but there are plenty of others like it 'round these parts. I'm
just saying such things exist, that's all.