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Soccer is a great game! However, very
often the games end in a tied score. That
is really only a problem in elimination
tournaments, where there must be a
winner. The most important sports
tournament in the world, the World Cup, is
just such a tournament. The result of
having a game
end on penalty kicks is just
It is surprising though how many times
there are hits either in the posts or the
cross bar. I propose that any game that is
tied on goals, is decided on number of hits
in the goal frame, i.e., the posts or
crossbar. If those number of hits are tied,
you decide on the number of hits that
bounce off the frame back into the playing
field as opposed to bounce out of bounds.
Thus, if there is a winning score, no
change in the rules. But on a tied game,
instead of going to the penalty shoot-out,
decide on the goal frame shots.
||Why is a game ended with a penalty kick a tragedy?
[bris] I think it's
generally considered a tragedy because
these tend to be very important games
and a penalty shoot-out is so arbitrary,
hardly better than deciding the result
with a coin toss.
||Excellent idea. It would encourage teams to shoot, instead of passing the ball around all day.
||In a tie game, the (ahem) net success of both teams' offensive efforts is already accounted for. Tiebreaker points might be awarded for defense: one point goes to the team for each save made by their goalie?
||(Just a thought that occured to me. I'm not much of a sports fan, so don't read too much meaning in to my musings. I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll remain neutral in the voting department.)
||[half], I have always wanted a slightly more aggressive game. Great though footie is, ninety minutes of watching two defensive teams reach a nil-all draw can be rather boring. [Goesta]'s idea would both eliminate that heartbreaking penalty shoot-out fiasco and marginally encourage a more aggressive game. It has my vote.
||...and mine! Soccer is an amazing game. In my opinion, it's only flaw was the penalty kicks' resolution of tie games. This idea gets rid of it.
||Great idea. Booooo on the penalty kicks!
||could we count broken bones, cuts, abrasions, egg-sized bumps to the head, haemorrhages, pints of blood lost...?
||I am not really soccer literate. In American Football the first person to score in overtime wins. Would this play until a tie breaking score cause too many injuries due to fatigue if implemented in soccer?
||[Bristolz] let me tell you a story. World
Cup month 1994 was pretty near the
funnest month I can recall. I attended
US v. Brazil in Stanford stadium on July
4, 2004. Then Sweden v. Romania in
the quarter final a few days later. And
watched just about every other match at
various large-screen TV venues. Then
after a month of excellent games,
edge-of-the seat moments, etc., it was
time for the final. 120 minutes of 0-0
soccer between Brazil and Italy, that
Brazil eventually won on penalty kicks.
That is ridiculous. I was so
disappointed that the world cup winner
couldn't even score a goal, that I felt
that the whole tournament was a waste
of time. Truly a tragedy.
||Admittedly, my idea does not directly
address the low-scoring nature of the
game. However, as some have
observed here, if you can get some
bonus from hitting the goal frame, it
may open up the game a bit. For one,
once one team has hit the goal frame,
the game is not quite tied anymore and
the other team must start playing more
aggressively. More aggressive play
leads to more goals both for and
||And besides which, I think a team that
takes a bunch of shots and hits the
frame a few times deserves a win more
than a team that successfully plays for a
||[Zimmy] in NHL playoffs they keep
playing until there is a goal. That can
result in extraordinarily long games. To
me, 90 minutes (or 120 with the
customary 30 min extension), is plenty
long to watch or play a soccer game.
And two teams that have succeeded at
playing 0-0 that long may be able to
keep playing 0-0 for a very very very
long time. yawn.
||The USA 94 final went to penalty kicks largely because of the decision by both managers to play upsettingly negative and stifling 5-3-2 formations.
||What if each side hits the woodwork the same number of ties?
||I don't like this idea. Still prefer the shoot-out. The purpose of soccer is to score, not to hit the posts and the cross bar.