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Vinyl Movies & Vinyl Movie Player

Old technology for old movies.
 
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Five records per Vinyl Movie; one for each of the colours, and two for sound.

The player has five corresponding turntables and needles, so that the intensity of each of the colours can be sent to the television. The stereo sound can be sent electronically or be bellowed from dual trumpets.

Just think of the crackle as the movie starts, the slightly out-of-sync scenes, and the hilarity when you mix up the yellow and blue discs.

tyskland, Nov 28 2002

Vinyl Video http://www.vinylvideo.com/
Only uses the one player, but... [-alx, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Flintstones technology .... http://www.hypernov..._pre.htm#mechanical
Long ago, in a consumer marketplace far, far away .... [8th of 7, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Paul Gottlieb Nipkow http://inventors.ab...entors/blnipkov.htm
of whom [Richard K] spoke [angel, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

pXL 2000 http://jm3.net/pxl/
A film camera that runs on audio tape. [weedy, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Baird's Phonovision Discs http://www.tvdawn.com/tvdiscs.htm
older than the boob tube [mr2560, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

CED player http://www.cedmagic.../selectavision.html
Baked, cooled, then went stale. [GutPunchLullabies, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

More on Baird's recordings http://www.iee.org/...HistTech/Ht027r.cfm
[coprocephalous, May 06 2005]

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       Excellent. Assuming you're thinking of a raster pattern display (don't feel you have to) the discs would need a "start of line" sync pulse on each frame to keep them all in step.
I feel that 5 separate players might not work as well as one player with a huge belt driving 5 platters - or 5 stacked platters on a single spindle....
Also, I doubt if a single disc will be long enough for a movie - a movie might be two or three discs long (implying 10 or 15 discs in total) wwhich would echo the breaks in old films for the projectionist to change reels.
hippo, Nov 28 2002
  

       I felt that if there were five seperate players, occasionaly you'd get out of sync colour, emulating damaged films, poisoned by bright light.   

       10-to-15 records certainly would make it as thick as an old-style cinema reel, and would be good value-for-money, plus the added bonus that you mentioned.   

       Perhaps optional sound records as well, so that surround sound and 5.1 can be incorperated.
tyskland, Nov 28 2002
  

       Thirty-Three-And-A-Third. Old school!
tyskland, Nov 28 2002
  

       Sp: Skool - for authenticity, getting to change discs frequently (it's a "feature") and higher fps, you'd have to go with 78 rpm. I know a Bluesman who goes through over 300 78 needles a month, so you'd get to stock up on those too - saves the records from excessive wear.
thumbwax, Nov 28 2002
  

       78's sold with a "free" pack of, say, 30 needles.   

       (By free i mean included in the price, of course.)
tyskland, Nov 28 2002
  

       shellac rather than vinyl, of course
hippo, Nov 29 2002
  

       Will we be able to region-hack our gramophones (or gramoscopes, I suppose)?   

       Why not go all the way?
Fight Club in a 2-wax cylinder box-set!
The Aliens Special edition zoetrope!
The Godfather trilogy flick book!
  

       It's novel, non-obvious, and (arguably) useful - apply for a patent immediately!
friendlyfire, Nov 29 2002
  

       //which would echo the breaks in old films for the projectionist to change reels//

<aside> I recently bought the 'complete and uncut' DVD version of 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World'. Imagine my surprise and, I must confess, delight when I discovered that 'uncut' meant that the 10 minute Interlude was also included. </aside>
DrBob, Nov 29 2002
  

       Would you need 5 records? Stereo records exist, holding two data tracks, so why not have a stereo pickup for the audio *and* a quadrophonic pickup for RGB +sync?
angel, Nov 29 2002
  

       Making the turntables coaxial would get round the problems of phase drift and synchronisation.   

       I'm sute that one of the original Phillps systems used and electromechanical pickup, so I think that in some way this is actually Baked .......   

       Suggested category - "Product: VCR" ??
8th of 7, Nov 29 2002
  

       This isn't really a VCR. Maybe "Product: Scopical Devices", if it ever comes into being.
tyskland, Nov 29 2002
  

       Have little holes at in the edge of the disk, so the record doubles as the Nipkow disc in a Baird system TV. That way, the signal and the scan have to keep in sync.   

       A reflection version would have little phosphor dots in red, green, and blue in the Nipkow pattern, and send the amplitude signal to a UV LED.
Richard K, Dec 03 2002
  

       Even though it's far superior.   

       I wonder what the maximum data rate of vinyl is.
bristolz, Dec 03 2002
  

       [bristolz]'s reply demonstrates the only flaw in this otherwise excellent idea. Existing vinly snobs would spend twice as much time boring their friends extolling the virtues of vinyl, and going on about how they found a wonderful early edition of The Maltese Falcon for a fiver from some shop in Camden.   

       As for the data rate, I guess it would be a bit better than 1xCDs - which are about 170 kbps (back of envelope calculation, so may be wrong)
whimsickle, Dec 03 2002
  

       How can someone who favors vinyl over all that esoteric digital stuff be called a snob? You have that backwards.   

       1X CDs are 90kbps, I thought.
bristolz, Dec 03 2002
  

       [bristolz], I was thinking of some of my neo-Luddite friends, who have a evangelical penchant for vinyl that borders on the fetishistic.
whimsickle, Dec 03 2002
  

       The only drawback: vinyl=bad for environment. I'm wondering, since a laserdisc fit one movie on it and was the size of a 33 record, how huge would these have to be, and how fast would they have to spin to get the data rate necessary for minimal viewing capability?
RayfordSteele, Dec 03 2002
  

       And whether they would be CAV or CLV?
bristolz, Dec 03 2002
  

       Can I borrow that copy of the Falcon's Malteser when you've finished with it, whimsickle?
DrBob, Dec 03 2002
  

       I like Richard K's self playing Nipkow discs. Very elegant simplicity!
mr2560, Oct 15 2003
  

       My friend has about a trillion movies from the 70's and 80's, printed on vinyl discs the size of 45's, encased in protective sleeves. They weigh appx. 1 million pounds, skip entertainingly, and go through styli quickly. They are called CED's (capacitance electronic discs). They are exactly as great as you'd hope.
GutPunchLullabies, Jul 28 2004
  

       and when you get bored with that, you can go outside and play frisbee, or eat off them, ot pretend your a car ant they are your wheels, or feed them to your polar bear, or bury them, or turn them into shiny metal boomerangs and throw them at people like the feral kid on mad max 2, or mount it on a stick and randomly spin it whenever the situation arises like those guys om mad max 3 (the worst one in the trilogy) but those are just a few ideas from me, the ginger head man
andrew1, May 06 2005
  
      
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