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Problems:
1. Global financial system is over-complex, is run by and in the interest of the rich, is short-term focussed and ignores long term externalities.
2. Political systems are also run by and in the interests of the rich and powerful
3. Individuals have limited understanding of the wider
picture, and act in their own interest which can lead to perverse collective behaviours.
4. Actually individuals don't even act in their own interests a lot of the time due to psychological blocks biases and behavioural issues.
5. The system is getting ever more complex and fragmented and no-one has any hope of understanding it.
6. There is an awareness that "something needs to be done"
Possible solutions that have been tried:
1. Revolution, kill everyone you disagree with and start again from scratch. Not usually a great success by many metrics.
2. Carry on and ignore the problem. Tends to lead to a bigger problem in the future.
3. Run away and hide, e.g. by joining a commune, nunnery or something liek that. Kind of works but tends to be a bit restrictive. Also tends to be parasitic on the majority of people not doing it so as to keep a functional society and economy going.
Suggested idea: use multiple competing and co-operating AIs to run a subscription shadow society. Like joining a commune, people would sign up to the system. They would give the system complete access to and control over their bank accounts and all networked systems in their lives. The system would organise incentives and punishments to optimise human behaviours. The AIs would naturally watch all of the internet and social media, and the reactions of their human clients, and would read all the latest psychological and scientific research. The system would basically optimise the paths to life success of its clients both individually and collectively. Clients could withdraw from the system freely at any time but the collective power of the system would make membership much more attractive than independence.
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That's why we use organic components. "Humans are too intrinsically unreliable to ever be effectively replaced by machines". |
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//optimise human behaviours// |
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How is optimal defined in this case? |
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(obligatory) I for one welcome our AI shadow subscription
lifestyle financialisation overlords. |
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(opens app) Hey look. It just put all of my savings in an
offshore account named "not pocmloc". I'll just trust the
algorithm. |
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That's more of a translation than a definition. To use AI
terminology, it does not imply any particular utility function. |
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So, better than anyone I've ever met, then? |
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Does the algorithm also involve "tear us apart baby, I would
rather be dead", by any chance? |
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Hmmm that is possible, I hadn't considered that possibility. |
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I suppose the thing I was thinking is that the AI would be given the autonomy to decide these things for itself. |
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Wild internet rumors speculate that this system already
exists and is fully operational but only for high net worth
individuals. |
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Worrying for who, exactly ? |
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// untouchable mobsters // |
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I must be simple, because isn't it just the individual not overly taking from the rest of society for their person input or cleverness. Everyone deserves to live, the life you want you have to work for. |
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Google "iron law of wages", [wjt], to understand why, under quite
common initial conditions, working will *not* get you the life you
want. I'm OK, I have a good life, but class privilege (and other
forms of good luck) have had at least as much to do with that as
working. |
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We could be part of a supra-organism that reflects our values, and creates
good conditions for our homeostasis! Sure, what's not to like. No man is
an island. Looks like I'm trying to create a kind of ... community that would
be in line with at least part of HB people. :) so, it won't be a competing AI,
but a complementary one. |
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Ecosystem of supraorganisms can also be complicated.. |
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Some if the sci-fi novels indicate quantum AI will be applied in optimising resource sharing rather than shaddow mothering. If the Earth becomes a maximised system, this makes sense. |
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I don't think the iron law of wages' chase will feature, living rather lifestyle will be down to individuals', corporations' and governments' sharing decisions. |
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Sorry, maximised , for me, is because the system is closed. |
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