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Home Grown Internet

open sourced home grown internet
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So the internet has become so comercialized and riddled with hackers that it is time for another interent. The goverment (US) proposes building a second secure interent where there is no privary. This is fine and dandy, until they start requireing you to use it. As long as there is a choice, both the secure and unsecure interent can coexist i beleive. To ensure that there will be that choice in the future i suggest building a home grown interent. Built from small comunities, with cheaply available parts and with cost/matinence always in mind. Sure it would take years and would have to be some form of subscription based system for maintance, it would be built by the people for the people. Communities can then interconnect and eventually another interent is born.

-ddn

ddn, Jan 01 2001

Yeah, yeah... http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/OpenNets
[egnor, Jan 01 2001, last modified Oct 04 2004]

I call it pubwan http://www.brightid...-9F8D-00A0C932F0D2}
But you can call it corn. [LoriZ, Jan 01 2001, last modified Oct 04 2004]

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       The biggest problem is physical infrastructure (wires), which is why the dozens of projects which are trying to do something like this (which you missed because you live in a cave, or something) are typically using wireless networking hardware.   

       Any sufficiently large network will have hackers on it, so secure your systems already. Any sufficiently useful network will include commercial traffic, so get used to it already.   

       Security and privacy are hardly incompatible, despite whatever misconceptions you may have about any weird US government initiatives.   

       The Internet is not like the Bell System. It is a global concept, not a specific network that you build build "another" of. The Internet is the concept that regional networks should be connected together to increase everyone's value, and that open peering is better than proprietary, billed networks.   

       What was your problem, again?
egnor, Jan 02 2001
  

       well, egnor, I don't know what is ddn's problem, but here's mine...   

       The fact that there are efforts out there toward less proprietary ways of doing internetworking isn't unknown to me. But it's not like I didn't have to spend a few hours massaging around advertising oriented search engine constraints to figure out who and where. Maybe the fact it has taken me that long only proves that my computer skills are hopelessly stuck in the 20th century. What's really stuck in the 20th century is my attitude about the internet. 10 or so years ago, you had to search under, between and around the noncommercial activities to find the commercial ones. Now it's the other way around. Frankly, I miss the old internet. Sure, we all know that the reason it's changed is it's not as subsidized as it used to be. And of course, we all know about tragedy of the commons, and the how the inevitability of market efficiency is proof that we live in the best of all possible worlds, and all that jive. I'm not saying the internet of the early 90's is an example of how things should be, or even of how things can be. I'm just saying I liked it better back then. It's simply an emotional thing with me. I'm not trying to insinuate that I know anything about the humyn condition, or economics, or computer networking.
LoriZ, Jun 07 2001
  

       It's a great idea. build a $50 IR device that sends ethernet packets a hundred yards or so. use one or put one on each side of your house to your neighbors. routing is done geographically since your IP address is determined by your precise coordinates. Once there's a critical mass of users, everyone's connected (except the 10% of the population in rural areas) and there's no single point of failure. Let the naysayers rant, but it's comming...
sh4linux, Aug 23 2001
  

       //(except the 10% of the population in rural areas)//   

       Who can be connected up by having optical adapter systems attached to some convenient medium (like telephone lines or satellite linkup) to their local towns who are are likewise connected to the cities and from there the nations.
CrumbsDM, Oct 03 2002
  
      
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