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Ian Tindale

...or am I a figment of his imagination?
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You OK Ian?

Anyone know/in contact?

Frankx, Oct 15 2019

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Which makes less sense now [Frankx, Oct 16 2019]

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       He posted a few weeks ago on one of my ideas. Don't remember which one. I assume he's alive, if you can call not coming to the Halfbakery every day a life.   

       You OK Ian? You're missed.
doctorremulac3, Oct 15 2019
  

       I'm sure His [Tindale]ness has posted relatively recently, but "I'm sure" usually means "I'm not sure".   

       I have an (oldish) email address that I can try if he persists in being absent.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 15 2019
  

       Angonaminnit - I'm not finding any annotations or ideas by [Ian].
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 15 2019
  

       He seems to have deleted his account. That's a shame.
Loris, Oct 15 2019
  

       It is. There are times when I need two cups of coffee.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 15 2019
  

       Oh bollox. Why would he do that? Two cups of coffee was a giant.
xenzag, Oct 15 2019
  

       I have emailed him, will report back if there is any good or bad news. I suppose I should have sent him two emails.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 15 2019
  

       I still miss [Rods Tiger]
hippo, Oct 15 2019
  

       //I have emailed him// Tell him his two cups of coffee are waiting to be reclaimed.
xenzag, Oct 15 2019
  

       //I still miss [Rods Tiger]// I still miss missing [Rods Tiger]
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 15 2019
  

       He just posted an email address a few days ago if anyone wanted to hear his latest music. I hadn't gotten around to it yet. Maybe none of us did.   

       I was going to listen.
RayfordSteele, Oct 16 2019
  

       Yes, the link to his music. I did listen and commented. I'm very sorry to see he has left, in fact, if he has.
blissmiss, Oct 16 2019
  

       //He just posted an email address a few days ago// Was it a link or an email address? If it was an address, what was it?
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 16 2019
  

       What everyone said
pertinax, Oct 16 2019
  

       Wonder what happened. Maybe he just decided he'd rather be in the list of things that aren't on any list?   

       // "I would suggest that of all things, now that I think about it, lists really are the most difficult thing to understand, and yet everybody thinks they understand them. What they're understanding is a surface appreciation of them. Once you start thinking about lists further, you'll never come back. Nested lists. Lists that relate to other lists. List items that themselves are relationships. Lists with items that exist in more than one list. Lists that vary across time. Lists that contain things. Lists that leave things out. A list of things that aren't on any list." [Ian Tindale]
Inyuki, Oct 16 2019
  

       //Angonaminnit// I noticed one of his annos had disappeared, looked for his user page and found him gone. Assume that means he’s deleted his account.   

       His last idea was “New name for marketing” I think. He was clearly passionate about his music. Sadly, I didn’t get to listen to it.
Frankx, Oct 16 2019
  

       //Sadly, I didn’t get to listen to it//   

       Google is a wonderful thing, I'm sure you'll b able to find some if U try.
Skewed, Oct 16 2019
  

       Google "Robot Christmas Ian Tindale".
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 16 2019
  

       //if U try//   

       I did, but my work IT blocks so much stuff, that and the “Register or log in with Google/Facebook...” just turns me away.
Frankx, Oct 16 2019
  

       Quit your job...easy solution to that, Frankie Sir. hahaha, you shouldn't be working anyway, None of the rest of us bums do. hahaha
blissmiss, Oct 16 2019
  

       //Google "Robot Christmas Ian Tindale"//   

       No. Don't do that. It's awful.   

       //Wonder what happened.//   

       Maybe his job was getting serious so he had to delete history.   

       //A list of things that aren't on any list//   

       I guess there is a chance that a recursive list of runtime created types gave rise to the singularity and the half-bakery account had to go before it reached the two cups of coffee. The great fire of london started in a bakery too.
bigsleep, Oct 16 2019
  

       //Was it a link or an email address?//   

       It was either Ian dot Tindale @ gmail.com or hotmail.com but I think I remember him mentioning something negaitive about hotmail once so I'm leaning toward gmail.   

       I found an old email for him - the gmail one. I've emailed him (yesterday) but with no result as yet.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 16 2019
  

       //Quit your job//... Thank you, you’re right [bliss], that’s what I should do. It’s like some part of a horrible consumerist cycle.
Frankx, Oct 16 2019
  

       //I found an old email for him - the gmail one. I've emailed him (yesterday) but with no result as yet.// - I did the same, yesterday morning I think
hippo, Oct 17 2019
  

       I think I had a phone number for him. It's a bit curious if his account has gone phoof! [blissy]
po, Oct 17 2019
  

       He's not the first to depart and leave the halfbakery like a block of cheese of course. Meanwhile, is there an "I've decided to come back and restore everything" option? ie "undo destroy account". I sometimes wonder what happens if you accidentally click on that "destroy" button. It's positioned so close to other options, and my keyboard (being a fairly recent mac) is flawed like them all, so the cursor jumps around randomly and sometimes opens items when not pressed. ie it's entirely possible that in my particular case, my account could be inadvertently 'destroyed'.
xenzag, Oct 17 2019
  

       There used to be a row of quacking ducks type warning. Phone number is no longer valid.
po, Oct 17 2019
  

       Maybe herself, the soup dragon, knows more......
xenzag, Oct 17 2019
  

       All those blatantly idiotic predictions...
hippo, Oct 17 2019
  

       “New name for marketing”
As for plublicity stunts, and creating value through scarcity, this could be a brilliant move.
LimpNotes, Oct 17 2019
  

       [hippo] <weeps>
po, Oct 17 2019
  

       He's still active on Twitter - search for Ian K Tindale
DenholmRicshaw, Oct 17 2019
  

       Well then, if anyone here actually knows how to operate Twitter, can they not go there and bring him back? Given that he is not, after all, dead I think that "reasonable force" is entirely justified.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 17 2019
  

       Good luck with Twitter. Wondering who upset him after all the years he's been here given he deleted his account once before.
po, Oct 17 2019
  

       Did he? It's close to being a habit.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 17 2019
  

       Yes - that was the [Rods Tiger] account
hippo, Oct 18 2019
  

       Ah. Well, then, I suppose there is a chance he will return.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 18 2019
  

       Coffee cups in hand?
blissmiss, Oct 18 2019
  

       It's at somewhat solemn times such as this, where we come together to think about a colleague who has left the Halfbakery, that I like to recall the words of the great poet and philosopher [calum]: "...the halfbakery is like the internet's secret, clumsily partitioned, sex shop back room, except that through the glory holes are thrust ideas to suck, rather than cocks".
hippo, Oct 18 2019
  

       Oh my, I don't remember that famous quote. Ha.
blissmiss, Oct 18 2019
  

       Gotta love [calum]
po, Oct 18 2019
  

       Interestingly, on Ian K Tindale's twitter feed, he wrote on the 7th of October: "A way to achieve true sense of relief.   

       Websites you’re member of for years. Members gathered because they’ve met like minds, shared interests, especially those of an engineer mindset.   

       You realise they’re now toxic, full of criticism, unproductive – simply delete your account."   

       Well, there ya go. Mystery solved. I can't help wondering what made him think we were previously productive.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 18 2019
  

       //they’re now toxic, full of criticism, unproductive// Well if your objective is to be a productive, critical toxin, then that’s quite a compliment.
xenzag, Oct 18 2019
  

       // I can't help wondering what made him think we were previously productive.//   

       Ah the good old days. You hadn't arrived yet. We were going to convert the world to halfbakumbaya on a wave of zenlightenment... and then it just sort of fizzled.   

       Back when we had standards. We didn’t let just anyone in back then, you know. They had to meet a certain level of unqualified.
RayfordSteele, Oct 19 2019
  

       Yes I remember it fondly. My unqualifications were immaculate back then. Oh the fun we had. Hardly any rules and taglines for all. <heavy sigh>   

       Funny, the "unproductive" bit is the only bit I disagree with.
4and20, Oct 19 2019
  

       Toxic like Flint, Michigan toxic? Like rat poison toxic? Like really toxic. Hmmm. I'm not feeling it. I don't like it when everyone thinks the same or gives out kudos to people for their endevours that they're not really qualified to comment on. I comment on things that I'm knowledgable about, or feel passionately about. (hence the reason I go days without commenting. Sometimes weeks even.)   

       I'm sorry he didn't feel the love I felt for him, and the admiration. Leaving here and deleting doesn't negate that, it just makes it a thing in the past, instead of the present, where I chose to exist.   

       The unproductive part...He had to have been sloshed to think we would take that as an insult. That's in fact part of our creed.
blissmiss, Oct 19 2019
  

       I can't say this place seems very different than it did when I was first here. I have to confess that I occasionally feel the urge to <like> annotations but that goes away after I have a bit of a lie down.
nineteenthly, Oct 19 2019
  

       as much as I like him, he's an over thinker. it may be useful but who to? under thinking is underestimated.
po, Oct 19 2019
  

       Never thought about it that way.
doctorremulac3, Oct 19 2019
  

       Much the same as if a jobs worth doing ... it's often worth doing badly.   

       Rather than faffing around getting it perfect & never finishing, or finishing after it needed doing.   

       [Thinks about Brexit]   

       [Resists urge to say it]
Skewed, Oct 19 2019
  

       Underthinking, overthinking it's all the same caboodle. Something has to be moved out of the way to see something else.   

       Fair weather friend is more apt. We all have to to face criticism. The kids tend to throw out their toys and sometimes losing the best part of themselves.   

       Then again, if someone has to lose the the bakery to be a better, advanced world citizen, I wish them all the luck I can muster. The world turns, so the glow will eventually stimulate the bakery.
wjt, Oct 20 2019
  

       What a beautiful bit of writing there you stuck on the end, [wjt]. I'm standing and applauding. Yay. Good job, now carry on.
blissmiss, Oct 20 2019
  

       //Underthinking, overthinking it's all the same caboodle.//   

       I was dissapointed, I though that was going to be a poem, like:   

       "Underthinking, overthinking it's all the same caboodle. No matter what the issue is, don't over- tax your noodle..." or something like that.   

       Nice ending though. Can you go back and make it rhymey?
doctorremulac3, Oct 20 2019
  

       I don't think the thinking we do here can be rated as under or over. It's more sort of alongside, maybe at an 89° angle.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 20 2019
  

       [MB] quite right.
po, Oct 20 2019
  

       //Underthinking, overthinking it's all the same caboodle.//   

       "Under bridges over bridges to our destination."   

       Over-thinking seems to be what most do here. [xenzag] gets a free pass because he's arty.   

       Freddie Mercury said his music should be treated as disposable. This place is just a similar circle of life, but with a trebuchet.
bigsleep, Oct 20 2019
  

       Also, while we're on the subject, whatever happened to [NotationToby]?
zen_tom, Oct 21 2019
  

       I often wonder whatever happened to me.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 21 2019
  

       Your efforts to become me failed and now you're stuck being yourself.
xenzag, Oct 21 2019
  

       Its very much different than from when I first started. Much more active then, and fewer actors simply playing a role they typecast themselves into. People felt safe enough to let their guard down and form an actual yahoo group. Now it all feels quite stale. Not toxic, but stale. When someone posted a parody a few years ago of this place that quite well mirrored what went on to within a tolerable chromatic aberration, the handwriting on the wall seemed pretty legible.
RayfordSteele, Oct 22 2019
  

       I think this is actually the third time that Mr Tindale has peaced-out. He was Ian Tindale before he was Rods Tiger before he was Ian Tindale again, if memory serves. He is obviously still alive & well, judging by other comments, which is a good thing.

//fewer actors simply playing a role they typecast themselves into//

Aha! Time for some thematically appropriate Bill Shakespeare!

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances..."

W Shakespeare, As You Like It.
DrBob, Oct 29 2019
  

       Exit pursued by a bear.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 29 2019
  

       Macbeth Act V Sc. 5 seems more apposite:   

       "Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player.
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage.
And then is heard no more: it is a tale.
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
8th of 7, Oct 29 2019
  

       That's the crappiest limerick I've seen in a while.
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 29 2019
  

       Some of the ones he wrote on the walls of the Globe Theatre's staff toilet were hilarious, but rather coarse even by Tudor standards ... like the one about the Young Lady from Stratford ...
8th of 7, Oct 29 2019
  

       //Exit pursued by a bear// I prefer "Exit, in pursuit of a beer"
xenzag, Oct 29 2019
  

       Would you like to clarify what rhymes with "Stratford"?
MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 29 2019
  

       Sorry, modesty forbids ...   

       // "Exit, in pursuit of a beer" //   

       So, would that be a case of "Ale and fairwell" ?
8th of 7, Oct 29 2019
  

       Cat turd
4and20, Oct 29 2019
  

       I think I prefer my choice of quotes, 8th. Yours is terribly depressing. Well, it's Hamlet, so what do you expect. Whilst mine, I feel, is much more upbeat & embracing of change.

If the truth be told It's probably indicative of our personalities. One of us is a positive, forward-looking, lover of life with many friends who gets out of the house at least once a year whilst the other is just a miserable old git, with no friends, who lives at home in the dark & cold, huddled over a two bar electric heater that smells annoyingly of cats*. I leave it to others to judge which of us is which. :D

Close 4and20...

There was a young lady from Stratford
Whose knowledge was terribly backward
She got into trouble
After waxing her stubble
And now she's a mother in Catford.


* You really should get MB to replace it. You've worked on his garden now for nearly 80 years. You'd think he could upgrade the facilities in the gardening shed occasionally.
DrBob, Oct 30 2019
  

       we're getting closer and closer to 2020. What, no blatantly idiotic predictions?
theircompetitor, Oct 30 2019
  

       I believe 2020 is never going to happen. It is a version of the technological singularity, except it will be caused entirely by Brexit. The arguments and lack of agreement on anything sensible will happen over shorter and shorter time-frames. Laws will simultaneously be passed in the Westminster and Brussels parliaments, granting an extension to December 2019. The first extension will be like a leap-second, but there will be more and longer extensions which will eventually be formalised in an exponential calendrical system. Generations to come will wonder why their calendar shows the date as the 878,359th of December, 2019.
pocmloc, Oct 30 2019
  

       // 2020 is never going to happen. //   

       You are entirely correct. When Ian Tindale ceased to exist, time stopped. What you're experiencing (or think your're experiencing) now are just shadows, "echoes" of causality produced by dark energy leaking through from a congruent pseudoreality. It's our sophisticated spatio-temporal shielding, an essential component of our Warp drive, that allows us to observe all this from our engineered warp-field "bubble", independant of your perception.   

       Or then again you might just be imagining it.
8th of 7, Oct 30 2019
  

       //stale//   

       One generation passes away, and another generation comes; The sun also rises, and the sun goes down, And hastens to the place where it arose. The wind goes toward the south, And turns around to the north; The wind whirls about continually, And comes again on its circuit.   

       That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which it may be said, “See, this is new”? It has already been in ancient times before us.   

       Ecclesiastes 1:9
bhumphrys, Oct 30 2019
  

       // the sun goes down, And hastens to the place where it arose.//   

       Yes, but sooner or later the giant scarab beetle that pushes it is going to want to knock off for a fag and a mug of char, and then you'll be up the creek ...
8th of 7, Oct 30 2019
  
      
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