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One way to create a graphic language would be to hook
and Anime fans up to biofeedback while they are enjoying
their favorite stuff, and then hook up the fan's emotional
readouts with facial expressions and body gestures on the
screen/page, and then create new simplified material
the results, and then repeat a lot of times over
a great amount of people. Maybe it would be better to
with porno since male reactions would be more consistant
and clear and related to simpler shapes or shapes that
are easier to generalize. The end goal would be a
mathematically-definable, emotional, graphical language.
A universal language that never took off. [harderthanjesus, Jun 17 2005]
[theircompetitor, Jun 17 2005]
||I figure the end result of the development of Manga and
Anime will be a graphic language of emoticons that is as
expressive as phonetic languages but is more emotionally
direct because it will be based on the mathematically
definable shapes and curves that come from the face and
figure -- a sort of super ideogramatic language. One way
to develop that language more quicly than the natural
evolution of the art form would develop it would be to
create a feedback loop between the observers of the art
and the art itself. You could do this by determining what
art was creating what response in the observer and then
experimenting by changing the art to see how the
response changed. Maybe by using both Anime (video)
and Manga (comics/sequential art) you could come up
with an expressive but logically separated language.
||//It would be a very compact language,
||From what I have seen, porn and spam
are the official languages of IE.
||I thought this was going to be some kind of Porn Markup Language (PML) - a notation for describing the content of porn.
||For universal languages there's always Esperanto. My but it's ugly though.
||Well, you could have a sort of algorithm that changed shape until the proper emotional responce was generated. You tell your subjects, "I want you to think about the word 'crisps', in the potato sense" and look at the shapes for a minute".
||The algorithm would go to work, shapeshifting, and mediating the level of responce in the brain. At the end of the minute, the shape of highest responce is recorded and used as an attractor in later shapeshifts. Repeat a few thousand times and write it out and ask people to read it, and it'll really never amount to anything more than a few shapes.
||This should be a programming language.
||(I mean yeah, you could write all your own synonyms and then translate them before compiling, but a prefabricated P0Rn syntax would be helpful)
||I like it as idea. But I wonder how you
would express more concrete concepts
(which make up 50% of our
conversation, I would guess).
example, try imagining the preceding
sentence in some emoticonic language.
And how would you say 'I thought I'd
bought two packets of broccoli the day
before yesterday, but I bet that when
Bob looks in the refrigerator he'll only
||Thank you [base]. The whole sentence you quoted can be
expressed by the changing shape of the vocal tract so I
imagine it could be also by a series of expressions on a
face. Especially with animation there might be some way
to exagerate the parts of the face that are most
expressive and incrementalize the shades of meaning. I
don't know what the specifics of the language would be.
Maybe there would be some way to map the vocal tract
onto the face, using the most expressive part of the face -
maybe the center of the eyebrows as a tounge...
||This reminds me of an idea I've been meaning to post,
about a sign language that would use the body as a
representation of the vocal tract...
||This would be great. you get a picture at the "climax" like a scary amusement ride.
||well, from my experience with anime, they already have such expression in place.
||teardrop - distress
Nose bleeding - erection/like
||also referring to porn...alll you need to hear subjectively is:
||it'd be interesting if these were used to train autistic people to interact with people again.......Arigatou!!