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Bridges here in the DC area are falling apart. Miles of
roadway are crumbling. The very transportation grid we
rely upon is aged and nobody wants to shell out the billions
it would take to renew it.
Why not invite private corporations to take on the
problem? A company that rebuilds a major
freeway, etc would then get to name it, paint it, even
adorn it with their own corporate colors and logo. There'd
be a tax break for the company, news and traffic agencies
would plug the structure and that company's efforts during
news reports, the public is not summarily taxed to death
for the work and everybody's happy.
"This is your Pandora traffic minute. Traffic is delightfully
light due to the Boeing Tri-Level freeway ramping onto the
Apple OS-Xway. The Google Quadway and Tesla
PeopleMover are both up to speed. The Walmart Flyover
shows zero snags. And for those folks out on our Beltway,
remember to have a great today, a great tomorrow and a
Chinese infrastructure conquering the world
[xenzag, Dec 29 2015]
Wiki on the toll road
[LimpNotes, Dec 30 2015]
Toll road losing money
[LimpNotes, Dec 30 2015]
||You need the Chinese instead of those puny corporations. In
just seven years the Chinese have built over 11,000 miles of
TGV rail connections featuring 200+mph trains that connect
every major city to every other one. By contrast, the USA
doesn't have one high speed train, despite being the
perfect environment for these. (neither does the UK but we
are a small country that doesn't have the distances that
warrant them). Even India is set to get a TGV, courtesy of
the clever Chinese who can build anything. I'm sure they
would be only too happy to fix up the crumbling
infrastructure in the USA.
||[xenzag] China has a population density over 4 times that of
the US, and the US has much wider spaces between high-
||Greater distances mean an even greater emperative. The
simple fact is that China has left the USA behind when it
comes to getting things built. I visit the USA frequently and
the place is falling apart.The UK isn't much better by the
way, compared to places like Germany, or Denmark for
innovation in every aspect of the movement of people on
public and private transport.
||With Trump as president the decay in the USA will get much
worse as he diverts the entire concrete production of the
whole country to keep those dastardly Mexican rapists out.
||1. Please lets leave Trump out of this.
2. Private companies already build our infrastructure. The tendering process for these gigs is complicated, the legals are a nightmare, the costs insane.
3. The idea here appears (and I might be reading it wrong) to start from the assumption that the cost of construction is removed from the public purse. The problem is that the costs are as indicated in my point 2, above. Unless the private corporations are allowed to extract revenue from the enterprise, there is little incentive. I am not sure that advertising / PR is going to provide sufficient off-set.
4. Perhaps the idea is instead to encourage Carnegie-like activity, but for transportation infrastructure rather than intellectual infrastructure?
5. If I am wrong in my assumption at point 3, above, and the cost is not to be removed from the public purse entirely, but instead the PR/advertising advantage is only a partial offset of the cost, which continued to be borne by the taxpayer, then the idea is not great because (a) PR is very hard to value, (b) no-one wants their brand to be associated with the gridlock that will follow 7-10 years down the line and (c) this sort of "we pay for it, so we get to name it" already exists in relation to privately owned infrastructure, e.g. the Emirates stadium (though to be fair Emirates didn't actually build the thing, but their financial involvement made it possible).
||And the Emirates Air-Line, which started off as a
much-needed cablecar link between Royal Victoria
Dock DLR station (just a short distance from me) and
North Greenwich tube station over the river, with
heavy sponsorship. The people found that it costs
more to go that way, because it doesnt get included
in the oyster cap, its an entirely separate and
significantly higher fare. Hence, now, nobody uses it
for commuting its solely a funfair ride (which, for
that purpose, its certainly affordable).
||But Trump is our hero. How can we leave him out of it?
||The obvious solution is to deport Trump to Mexico and then watch as the Liberals build the border wall in order to keep him out.
||They'd never finish it; they'd drown in irony before they were done.
||The Pope, Donald Trump...no difference, same thing really.
||Indiana sold off their interest in the I 80-90 Toll
Road to some foreign company. Tolls went up.
Snow clearing got worse. Toll booth operators
were replaced with automated ticket things. Gas
along the toll road jumped from a few cents above
the median to nearly 40 cents above median.
Traffic from semis that used to take it started to go
down the other highways, rolling through small
towns and creating a hazard for locals.
||They didn't sell it off, they leased it for 75 years for $3.8 billion up front. And from what I understand, the investors are losing money every year. Additionally, the state was losing money on it before the deal even took place. The state passed a lemon off onto someone who was too stupid to realize it.<links>
||//the public is not summarily taxed to death for the work and everybody's happy
||No. Pay tax. Pay more tax. Tax builds public and civil spaces. Americans have low tax rates and shit infrastructure. See a connection?
||If you don't trust how your tax is spent, vote.
||The erosion of public space because someone wants to make an extra dollar, fuck that.