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Does anyone remember the old fashioned start menu that
would expand to the right as you hovered over things?
Have you ever right clicked inside a folder and seen the
menu that pops up that says New?
Have you ever wanted to do one thing followed by another
on your computer? And queue up things
for your computer to
do. Such as queuing a long running task followed by a
shutdown. Perhaps resizing a video and uploading it.
Here's an idea how to do that. You can right click and hover
over the operation you want to complete and this menu
expands to include new operations you can do after the
current one.
Here's how a menu could expand out:
Download > Rename file > Move file > Open file > Install
software > Install location > Open application > New
document > View plugins
The computer would automatically wait until the previous
item is finished before executing before moving onto the
next one.
GUI Thunking (my name for this)
https://github.com/samsquire/gui-thunks
An example menu [chronological, Feb 17 2020]
Graphical example
https://github.com/...thunks.png?raw=true
Example from GUI Thunking page [chronological, Feb 17 2020]
Example sliding menu
https://jsfiddle.net/h7ue4wgn/
Buggy sliding menu (Right click white space bottom right) [chronological, Feb 18 2020]
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Shell scripts run in the background could do this. |
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A bit of time needed to code each script, but it could be done as a platform-independent downloadable library, user-supported. |
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First Linux distro to implement this wins a prize. |
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Either the menus are early in the archive inside software.tgz
or software.exe. |
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Or you have a secondary download convention like
(menu.software.tgz) whereby menu.software.tgz contains all
the menu items to produce queueable menus for. |
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There would have to be some interface from the queueing
system to software to instruct the downloaded software
what
to do next. |
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What about a cheap-and-cheerful VB-like script builder using mostly pulldown menus, that either spits out shell script or generates an editable text interpreted macro ? |
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Slightly unrelated, but I've long suspected that AI won't make real advances until its understanding is mostly visual, like humans. |
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Hang on a moment. If I understand this idea, it is a way to
queue tasks so that you can go away and do something
useful while they all happen automatically. |
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Dear gods - have you people never heard of tea? Ever since
the industrial revolution, tasks have been adapted such that
they involve a 12-18 minute wait. It may be the time
needed for the boiler to come up to temperature, the time
needed for the glue to set, or the time needed for new
components to be delivered from the warehouse, but it is
ALWAYS 12-18 minutes. This is, not coincidentally, the time
it takes to drink one cup of tea and eat 3 biscuits. |
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This task-scheduling idea would completely destroy the tea-
break. You queue everything up, press GO, and then
suddenly you have two hours during which you're expected
to look busy. This is an absolute bloody disaster. |
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It's a geek thing, [MB]; we don't expect you to understand. |
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OK ... we will try to explain. |
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Start task taking 15 minutes; |
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Make and consume tea and biscuits; |
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until (time_now == HOME); |
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Now, for the Mk. II Geek (Version 3.86.16 release 4.4 issue 2F *Beta) |
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set up compile task on dev machine; |
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kick off batch task on rebooted server; |
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grab coffee mug, rush to kitchen, find coffee supply exhausted, start fresh brew, dash to bathroom, return to kitchen, pour coffee, rush back to see if compile task has completed, invoke linker script; |
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load linked code into debug environment; |
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start another batch task; |
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until (query (security_guard) == "AIN'T YOU GOT NO BLEEDIN' 'OME TO GO TO ?"); |
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Well, I'm glad at least that the geek waited until he got home
to void. |
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MaxwellBuchanan, another way to look at it is this |
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Boss: Why aren't you doing anything? |
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You: I queued every thing up for the rest of the day. I just
need to monitor it. I'm going to have some tea. |
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So programing by joe and jane public by tiling their known menu selections together with input prompts where necessary? |
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I believe it will more be like the ability of the computer to parse joe and jane's less precise verbal or text ask, by looking at thousands of previous use data sets, and generating the needed running script. |
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I've created an example sliding menu, see link |
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I'm going to re-write the idea to try make it more compact.
Here's the original idea text: |
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Now imagine you have a long running operation such as a
hefty Download of an installer (such as the Android SDK),
followed by an expensive task you want to
run on the file, such as an installation, move the file
somewhere, reupload elsewhere, or a resize a video or
change the video in some way. |
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The menu expands with what you can do with the content
once it has been finished - before it has finished! You right
click on the file in the
browser: |
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A menu pops out and says Download file.
You hover over download file and all the following slide
out: |
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Rename file
Move file
Install file |
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You hover over Move file and while the menu is still visible,
a
widget appears that lets you specify where to move the file
to
once its finished downloading. The menu has not
disappeared
and the file is being downloaded in the background. Once
you
select where the file should move to, another menu pops
out
and it contains |
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You hover over install file, and a wizard appears next to the
menu, you're asked a few questions about where to install
the
file and other questions from the installer (before the
download has finished). At the same time the wizard has
popped out, another menu has popped out to the right of
the
wizard and it says |
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You click New document and the following menu pops out: |
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Now an addon browser for the software you haven't even
finished downloading pops out. |
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I imagine this would be really useful on the command line
when you run an expensive operation such as bringing up
servers in AWS with Terraform. I want to queue running
Ansible against machines as soon as the machines have
come
up (I use a tool I programmed to do this) but I want to be
able
to queue things in general. |
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Download menus from the internet to queue things. |
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// Why was I fishboned? // |
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Huh ? Wasn't us ... we were busy debugging some J++ ... |
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<Queues croissant for [chron]'s idea &/> |
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So it's a chronological GUI? |
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